Talk:Mars Pathfinder

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Nice picture and video[edit]

/inflation/ tool] that would be $3,439,787,332.42 in 1997. Zanter 12:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Translation details[edit]

I've marked the few phrases in Spanish remaining to be translated in red. — J3ff 21:59, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • This appears to have been completed. SteveW | Talk 11:50, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

"all the elements"?[edit]

It found all the elements except hydrogen, which constitutes just one tenth of 1% of the rock's or soil's mass.

Surely this is an error. Can someone explain what's intended to be said here? Tempshill 04:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Probe path[edit]

I think it would be great to have a section outlining the specific path that the probe took to get to Mars. And also explain why the mission date was 12-4-96 as it relates to the orbits of Earth and Mars. This could educate the public as to the complexity (or simplicity?) of orbital planning. I'm not an expert so I couldn't piece this together, but I know there are smart/knowledgeable people out there capable of writing such a section! It would be a really great addition. ~ Rollo44 12:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


Sojourner (rover) merge[edit]

There's practically nothing on Sojourner (rover) and the topic is already well covered here. Pimlottc 03:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Support --ukexpat 15:51, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Support -- Davidkevin 15:57, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Support -- IntrplnetSarah (talk) 20:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I have completed the merge --Pico del Teide (talk) 09:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Refs[edit]

  • Kramm, J.R.; Thomas, N.; Keller, H.U.; Smith, P.H. (1998). "The CCD imager electronics for the Mars pathfinder and Marssurveyor cameras". Instrumentation and Measurement, IEEE Transactions on 47 (5): 1112 – 1118. doi:10.1109/19.746566. 
  • Smith, P. H.; Tomasko, M. G.; Britt, D.; Crowe, D. G.; Reid, R.; Keller, H. U.; Thomas, N.; Gliem, F.; Rueffer, P.; Sullivan, R.; Greeley, R.; Knudsen, J. M.; Madsen, M. B.; Gunnlaugsson, H. P.; Hviid, S. F.; Goetz, W.; Soderblom, L. A.; Gaddis, L.; Kirk, R. (1997). "The imager for Mars Pathfinder experiment". Journal of Geophysical Research 102 (E2): 4003–4026. doi:10.1029/96JE03568. 
  • Golombek, M. P.; Bridges, N. T.; Moore, H. J.; Murchie, S. L.; Murphy, J. R.; Parker, T. J.; Rieder, R.; Rivellini, T. P.; Schofield, J. T.; Seiff, A.; Singer, R. B.; Smith, P. H.; Soderblom, L. A.; Spencer, D. A.; Stoker, C. R.; Sullivan, R.; Thomas, N.; Thurman, S. W.; Tomasko, M. G.; Vaughan, R. M.; Wänke, H.; Ward, A. W.; Wilson, G. R. (1999). "Overview of the Mars Pathfinder Mission: Launch through landing, surface operations, data sets, and science results". Journal of Geophysical Research 104 (E4): 8523–8554. doi:10.1029/98JE02554. 
  • Stone, H. W. (1996). Mars Pathfinder Microrover: A Small, Low-Cost, Low-Power Spacecraft. 
  • P. H. Smith, J. F. Bell III, N. T. Bridges, D. T. Britt, L. Gaddis, F. Gliem, R. Greeley, H. U. Keller, K. E. Herkenhoff, S. Hviid, R. Jaumann, J. R. Johnson, R. L. Kirk, M. Lemmon, J. N. Maki, M. C. Malin, S. L. Murchie, J. Oberst, T. J. Parker, R. J. Reid, P. Rueffer, R. Sablotny, L. A. Soderblom, C. Stoker, R. Sullivan, N. Thomas, M. G. Tomasko, W. Ward, E. Wegryn (1997). "Results from the Mars Pathfinder Camera". Science 278 (5344): 1758 – 1765. doi:10.1126/science.278.5344.1758. 
  • Bell, J. F.; McSween, H. Y.; Crisp, J. A.; Morris, R. V.; Murchie, S. L.; Bridges, N. T.; Johnson, J. R.; Britt, D. T.; Golombek, M. P.; Moore, H. J.; Ghosh, A.; Bishop, J. L.; Anderson, R. C.; Brückner, J.; Economou, T.; Greenwood, J. P.; Gunnlaugsson, H. P.; Hargraves, R. M.; Hviid, S.; Knudsen, J. M.; Madsen, M. B.; Reid, R.; Rieder, R.; Soderblom, L. (2000). "Mineralogic and compositional properties of Martian soil and dust: Results from Mars Pathfinder". Journal of Geophysical Research 105 (E1): 1721–1756. doi:10.1029/1999JE001060. 
  • Foley, C. Nicole; Economou, Thanasis; Clayton, Robert N. (2003). "Final chemical results from the Mars Pathfinder alpha proton X-ray spectrometer". Journal of Geophysical Research 108 (E12): ROV 37–1. doi:10.1029/2002JE002019. 

--Stone (talk) 21:40, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


OH!!! Mars Pathfinder References This are a lot of Refs!!--Stone (talk) 21:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

History of Missions[edit]

This article states that Mars Pathfinder was the first to carry rovers to Mars. This isn't exactly correct. Mars 2 and Mars 3 had small rovers with them. Yes, Mars 2 crashed into Mars and Mars 3 failed to communicate before the rover was released, but it is possible (so far as I know) that the Mars 3 rover did actually deploy and gather data. It was just never received. In any event, Mars 2 and Mars 3 did deliver rovers to Mars.

One way to fix this would be to say "successful rovers" rather than just "rovers". Another would be to say "independent rovers" or "untethered rovers". But let's not leave the impression that Mars 2 and Mars 3 never got to Mars at all because that's not supported by official reports and the general historical record. Wilnap (talk) 10:57, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I made a change. "was the first mission to send a rover to a planet." -> "was the first successful mission to send a rover to a planet." gh5046 (talk) 11:46, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
The Mars 3 rover was never deployed. The plan was to pick up the rover, which was on the lander, using a manipulator arm and place it on the ground and than activate it. That never happened and as such Sojourner was the first rover to be deployed on another planet. --GrandDrake (talk) 17:03, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Intro[edit]

I think the introduction to this article should be revised to state up front what the Pathfinder actually is. I'm working on cleaning up the Pathfinder disambiguation page, which currently says this is a "NASA exploration probe", and I checked the article to verify that was an accurate description, but the intro is just telling me about the launch of this thing and not whether or not it actually is a NASA exploration probe; maybe it's actually a big sack of M&M's strapped to a rocket for all I know. (But I guess I'll assume for now that it is indeed a NASA exploration probe.) Propaniac (talk) 15:13, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Complete agreement! I came to the discussion section to make the same statement, and find that Propaniac made this statement five months ago. I have only a vague idea what Pathfinder is after reading the introductory paragraph. Ronstew (talk) 21:38, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Two questions[edit]

  • What gas was actually in the airbags ? (presumably something inert)
  • What was the actual reason for the probe's eventual failure ? All it says at the moment is they stopped receiving communications.
The Yeti (talk) 14:24, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Possible COI[edit]

A close relative of mine worked as a research scientist on Mars Pathfinder, and I'm interested in both contributing to the main article here and creating new pages for the scientific equipment aboard Pathfinder's lander and the Sojourner rover. As I'm new to Wikipedia, I feel I should ask whether it would be a conflict of interest for me to do so. May I ask what this group thinks? -- Darmokandjalad (talk) 22:23, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

The folks at the COI discussion board said I should be good to go provided I behave myself, so I'm going to start editing this article and drafting articles about the science results. You can check out a draft of the first of these here. Feedback welcome. Darmokandjalad (talk) 10:14, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Place in Popular Culture[edit]

I think it might be worth merging some of the material about Pathfinder's place in popular culture into a new section. To that section, I'd like to discuss how the mission's landing was televised, as well as how it was (I believe) the first NASA mission to provide image and data results from the mission on the Internet in near real-time. I remember fondly being fascinated by our new-found ability to examine professional data using the then-new-fangled Information Superhighway, and impressed by the statistic that the Pathfinder mission website became the single-most visited site to-date when the spacecraft arrived on Mars. -- Darmokandjalad (talk) 03:31, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Results of Mission Experiments[edit]

I am attempting to expand coverage of the results of Pathfinder's assorted experiments, starting with an article discussing the outcome of the Materials Adherence Experiment. I've submitted a draft to the AfC project, but I'm wondering if an editor with an interest in Pathfinder might care to take a look? -- Darmokandjalad (talk) 20:37, 24 January 2012 (UTC)