Talk:Martin Newell (musician)

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URL of Martin Newell's website[edit]

I've changed "http://www.martinnewell.co.uk" to "http://www.btinternet.com/~paul.wilkinson46/home.html", because:

(1) www.martinnewell.co.uk is merely a vanity redirect to http://www.btinternet.com/~paul.wilkinson46/ The frameset introduces an unnecessary weakness: if the server hosting martinnewell.co.uk goes down, the site becomes inaccessible. It also introduces bookmarking and navigation problems: if you like a particular page, you won't be able to bookmark it if www.martinnewell.co.uk is all you see in your browser's little URL window.

(ii) http://www.btinternet.com/~paul.wilkinson46/ is merely a content-free "splash" page: click on the image, and you get to http://www.btinternet.com/~paul.wilkinson46/home.html which is where you get links to actual content.

If anyone wants to change this back to martinnewell.co.uk, please explain any advantage of martinnewell.co.uk (other than elegance). Thank you. -- Hoary 14:38, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Deletion of items from the lists of works[edit]

Anyone who would like to make any further deletions should explain on this talk page why he or she is doing it, for example explaining how the details of a book as presented on the web by two major British libraries and amazon.co.uk are merely ingredients of some elaborate joke, and that the book is fictitious. -- Hoary 03:18, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

The same IP has made another deletion, which I've reverted. -- Hoary 03:01, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Picture[edit]

I was given the picture of Martin in February 2006 by Martin himself and I've added it today 15th of March 2006. Paul wilkinson a.k.a. Cleanersvenus 16:02, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks! I've changed the picture's position in the article text so that it displays better; this way the first sentence is not interrupted. If it doesn't look better to you, feel free to fiddle with it further. Ahkond 16:16, 15 March 2006 (UTC)


Lost in Music by Giles Smith[edit]

Shouldn't be there some information about this book. It's by a former Cleaners from Venus member, who describes the band's developement and Martin plays an important role in this book. BTW it's worth reading. Great, funny book. I would write some information, but my english is too poor. Zaphod (Berlin, Germany) 84.190.182.161 14:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

  • I did not know about this book. I will try to find a copy. Thanks. Ahkond 14:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Brotherhood of Lizards?[edit]

Shouldn't the Brotherhood of Lizards (Martin, with Nelson from NMA) get something of a mention? 80.164.86.169 03:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

  • In a word, yes! -- Hoary 05:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Rigor Mortis and the "Virtuoso Rock Guitarist" Re Bethe[edit]

An IP wrote within the article (and I'll refrain from sprinkling this with "[sic]":

In the late sixties a he was a member of the band "Rigor Mortis" Formed by Virtuoso Rock Guitarist Re Bethe, This band in 1973 was to became RITUAL, a band that attained Rock cult status, their image and reputation,helped in no small measure by the iconic Guitar The "Illusion" which Re Bethe created. user:Rebethe

Yes, it's quasi-signed.

Rigor Mortis (band) was Texan. That article says that Immolation (band) was previously named "Rigor Mortis", but it was from New York. There's no mention of any "Rigor Mortis" of which Newell could have been a member. Ritual (or "RITUAL") attained such "cult status" that, er, it doesn't have an article. I can't even parse the string "the iconic Guitar The 'illusion'", but anyway Re Bethe is so "iconic" (of what?) that he or she doesn't have an article.

If there is anything to this stuff, please copyedit it so that it makes sense, and back it up with evidence. -- Hoary 04:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Re Bethe and Rigor Mortis again[edit]

To clarify, Martin does mention Re Bethe and Rigor Mortis on his website, under "News" for January, last para --> http://www.btinternet.com/~paul.wilkinson46/recent.html :

"... a very old friend of mine got in touch with me via Friends Untied recently. Re Bethe and his band Ritual, are currently touring the States. I was at school in London with Re and formed a band with him called Rigor Mortis, ( well, we were only 14). Here posted up I hope, is a picture of Re sent me of his former home, 111 Lavender Hill in Battersea. Re's dad was a car dealer. It was here in the small car showroom that Re, myself and drummer Dave Woods would practice on weekday nights during the autumn of 1967. Autumn Almanack was in the charts, as was I Can See For Miles. The family lived upstairs I think. Local kids used to watch us with their noses pressed up against the glass. We had one amplifier between us. Happy, simple days. "

So perhaps the sentences about Re Bethe and Rigor Mortis should be reinstated? Daen 17:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

No, because it just looks like advertising hype by and for this extremely obscure band, which appears to have been of little importance to MN (who had to be reminded of its existence). -- Hoary 06:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)