Talk:Martin de Porres

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Is that little plastic statuette the best artistic depiction that we can manage? AnonMoos 06:47, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I've added a new photo that is a better fit for the article. I have also changed the needs-photo tag in the PeruProject Banner to "no". Reaster (talk) 04:54, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

A copy of that portrait is located above his tomb in Lima noting that that is the most reliable portrait of Martin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.74.179.134 (talk) 18:43, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Like a Prayer Music Video[edit]

According to the article on the Like a Prayer music video, Martin de Porres was the saint depicted. Should some reference to that be in this article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 161.253.23.172 (talk) 15:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC).

"The following biography is based on based on Roman Catholic sources."[edit]

As embedded html comments This line is here to avoid WP:POV accusations - please do not delete it

Please explain what this is doing in the article. This rationale makes no sense -- either the sources which are summarized in the text meet the Wikipedia definition of reliable or they don't. patsw (talk) 02:30, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I have deleted the sentence and the not-so-veiled threat in the documentation. If the contributor has any material that contradicts the information here, he or she is welcome to add it. Reaster (talk) 23:14, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
I have added a Peacock template in order to encourage better sourcing. The biography is over the top. I still disagree with the opening sentence reading "The following biography is based on based on Roman Catholic sources." as though Catholic=untrustworthy. I don't care whether they're Roman or Lutheran or whatever, but the sources ought to be a bit more skeptical regarding some of these claims. Reaster (talk) 23:56, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

I think I added that line. I did not mean to imply that Catholic sources were untrustworthy, but to acknowledge that the biography -- which is evidently not wholly objective -- was "according to" a particular school of thought. I have no quibble with the Peacock template, or the need for better sourcing, but I still think that -- until it is sourced and rewritten -- the current biography section needs to be introduced in a way that acknowledges its bias. I will change the heading to "Account of his life as given by Roman Catholic devotees" which has been accepted elsewhere. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:41, 22 April 2010 (UTC)


Musicwriter (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC).

Photos of Churches in Texas and Florida[edit]

I'm don't mean to reject those photos of relatively new church structures in Texas and Florida shown, but in Toledo, Ohio there is a magnificent Romaneque-style St. Martin de Porres Church that was completed in 1889. For a century it was St. Ann Church. But in 1990 Bishop James Hoffman approved of the name change, being aware that a few central city parishes had dwindling memberships.

If I could obtain license, I would be willing to submit a photo of the church. A small one can be seen on the parish web page http://saintmartindeporres.com Musicwriter (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:47, 9 May 2010 (UTC).

Blacks in religious orders[edit]

As a mulatto, Martin de Porres was not originally allowed to become a brother, not because any local law, but because the Dominican Order did not allow it. This can be confirmed by the fact that when Martin was 25 years old, they allowed him to become a full brother. That would have been impossible if a Peruvian law forbade it. A note in the convent of Santo Domingo in Lima, where he is interred, explains the above. Adding that he was the first mulatto allowed in the Order and that the rule was abolished worldwide when Martin joined as a full brother.

His skull is in the "altar of Peruvian saints" in the church of Santo Domingo in Lima adjacent to the above mentioned convent, along with Rosa de Lima's and another man's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.74.179.134 (talk) 18:41, 4 November 2013 (UTC)