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Virgo constellation and parthenogenetic mother goddesses[edit]

It seems odd that in this article there is no history at all, not a single reference to other parthenogenetic mother goddesses or to the Virgo Constellation (?). Was the myth created out of thin air? Thewarriltonsiegedoc (talk) 03:20, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Mary (mother of Jesus) = La Mère (in French) ?[edit]

The Origin of the name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.90.230.235 (talk) 07:20, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Pre-Christian history[edit]

There is a lack in this article of any reference to pre-Christian myths/stories/accounts/scriptures regarding virgin mothers. There seems to me to be both a historical thread to Mary and a mythological one and so the article should either contain a History section outlining earlier similar myths or contain references in the See Also section about them. These are some accounts I have come across which might be included/referenced:

  1. Buddha - Legend has it (???) that, on the night Siddhartha was conceived, Queen Maya dreamt that a white elephant with six white tusks entered her right side, and ten months later Siddhartha was born.
  2. The Egyptian God Horus was born of Isis after she impregnated herself with a golden phallus attached to the dismembered Osiriss body.
  3. In Phrygian and Greek mythology, the gods were afraid of the multi-gendered Agdistis. One deity (in some versions Liber, in others Dionysus) put a sleeping draught in Agdistis's drinking well. After the potion had put Agdistis to sleep, Dionysus tied Agdistis's foot to his own male genitalia with a strong rope. When Agdistis awoke and stood, Agdistis ripped his penis off, castrating himself. The blood from his severed genitals fertilized the earth, and from that spot grew an almond tree. Once when Nana, daughter of the river-god Sangarius, was gathering the fruit of this tree, she put some almonds (or, in some accounts, a pomegranate) into her bosom; but here the almonds disappeared, and she became pregnant with Attis..
  4. Quirinus, the Sabine god of war, came to be worshipped as the deified Romulus. Romulus was fathered by the god Mars and born of Rhea Silvia, whom King Amulias had forced into perpetual virginity as a Vestal priestess.
  5. Krishna was said to have been born to his mother Devaki while she was still a virgin.

LookingGlass (talk) 19:35, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

That´s an interesting subject, but I think that for anything pre-christian to fit in this article, we need good sources where scholars make the connection Mary-Other virgin births in mythology. Otherwise it´s original research on our part. There is an article called Miraculous births that might fit under see also, although Mary isn´t in that category herself. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:37, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Perspectives on Mary, Protestant view[edit]

"The Council Of Chalcedon, accepted by Protestants, held Mary to be Mother of God (not Christ)."

In reading the article, to better understand the subject, I found that final sentence of this section confusing, specifically the "(not Christ)" statement. I am Protestant myself but do not know what to make of the "not Christ" statement. Perhaps the author or anyone who understands the subject could elaborate. I can't imagine any Christian saying Mary was not mother of Christ. Evonj (talk) 13:32, 22 December 2014 (UTC)