Talk:Match Game

Cartoon version

(moved from article:)

With all these game show revivals, I thought it would be interesting to see a cartoon version of the Match Game or other celebrity panel show (such as Hollywood Squares, Battlestars, etc.).

A cartoon would be cool. Kind of like Laff-a-Lympics. --Shaggy

Why was Richard holding two cards in the Head to Head match?

I was watching an episode of Match Game 76 where the contestant was a pregnant woman named Gail Warren. At the start of the show they did a Head to Head match and she choose Richard Dawson. The question was "Special Blank" and she choose "Delivery" for her answer. When Richard pulled up a card that had "Delivery" written on it, behind that card at a slightly different angle was another card. Was Richard's ESP something a bit more than that? JonM42 (talk) 19:31, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

When was the first "how ____ is it?"

Right now on the gameshow network the reruns are in 1974. I noted that when Gene Rayburn says "Dumb Dora is so dumb..." that the crowd does not say "How dumb is she?"

Does anyone know when that started?

I'm watching an episode right now on GSN and Gene said that "Dumb Dora's boat was sinking so she threw ______ overboard." and there was no "How dumb is she?". The contestent said "herself" and Gene said "We'll Dumb Dora must of been that dumb." One of the celeberties said "I'm wondering how dumb Dumb Dora is." I'm guessing it started from that episode.

It was sometime in '75 because I've been watching it on GSN and at first the panel was starting it and then the audience started. Splent 20:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

• The "how ___ is it?" was also a staple of The Tonight Show - I doubt Match Game invented it. --Jajasoon 15:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Johnny Carson did "How cold/hot was it?" long before the 1973 Match Game revival (Carson hosted The Tonight Show from 1962 to 1992). However, there is another connection between Match Game and Tonight: Gene Rayburn was the announcer and sidekick of Steve Allen's Tonight Show (in the early 1950s), and, in fact, substituted for Johnny on several occasions in the 1960s. 147.70.242.40 00:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Low ratings

Is there a source for the CBS version being on the brink of cancellation early in the run? I've never seen this information before, and the text below, where it notes the show shot to #1 in six weeks, seems to contradict it.

You might be thinking of the NBC run of the show.

I think it was the CBS version; as it only shot to #1 after the type of questions changed from boring to bawdy. The Green Lantern 01:05, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Split the 60's MG into its own article

We've already split the Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour into a separate article. I was wondering whether an article on the original The Match Game (the 1962-1969 version) is in order, since its rules and gameplay were different from the one we all know and love. The MG '73 and all subsequent incarnations (save for MG/HS Hour) should be together, since the premise is the same. [[Briguy52748 20:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)]]

Weak oppose. I don't think there's enough info there to warrant a split. Lambertman 23:19, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Proposal to add Template:split

Go to article, click "edit the page", and realize that the article's size is at least 40 kilobytes. This is because we have long entries about so many versions of Match Game. I was wondering if it's best that this page splits up into different articles. Click The Price Is Right and see for yourself. --Gh87 04:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Incorrect Information

The number of shows that were run are different on the panel at the right and in the first few sentences. Someone should fix that. --216.11.55.3 18:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

In the intro, you can hear the Password/Password Plus/Super Password error sound

In the intro to some of the shows, you can faintly hear the four beeps used on Password when the contestant gives an invalid clue. Some other times, you can also hear it during the cue music. I'd like to add this observation to the article, but I'm unsure how to phrase it, and I'm not sure if or how it can be sourced. Mooinglemur 07:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I think it's the stage crew saying hi to the celebrities in a wierd way. Once, I heard that sound, and Richard Dawson was holding up a card that read, "Hi Johnny" or something. I know of an episode where Richard wrote something along the lines of "Johnny Olsen is less handsome in person" and then Johnny Olsen said, "Oh, come on now!" LOL.--Ephraim225 20:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

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The Match Game / Match Game Distinction

I have an idea: Instead of just referring to the original '60s version as "the 1963-1969 incarnation," how about we just call it The Match Game and take the "The" out of the title when referring to the 1973-1998 versions? The Green Lantern 01:04, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

"Match Game 1990" Returning in 2007?

Who keeps putting this back in the article, and do you have any proof? The Green Lantern 02:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Major cleanup and editing of article underway

As of July 18, this page was 62 kilobytes long - a warning appears during editing if it gets over 30. Throughout the article are numerous instances of fancruft, original research, and huge amounts of indiscriminate information. In addition, all speculations are violations of Wikipedia:Verifiability and need to be removed. Please remember when working on this article that it needs to be encyclopedic in nature - it should have enough information that a casual reader could understand the show completely, but not so much that only a diehard fan can appreciate and understand it (that's why game show fan websites exist anyway). My intent is not to upset anyone or step on toes, but let's keep the article a little more concise! Thanks... --Goldrushcavi 00:06, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Good luck. I've tried to clean this up, but the anon put it all back and more. It's why I've given up. Lambertman 21:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

This is almost a good article candidate

All this needs are a LOT more references and citations, along with some light trimming, and it's a Good Article candidate very easily. Possibly even a featured article. Just needs references and trimming. Good luck to all who work on this article! I think only three articles are GA's (Price is Right is one, and I did a lot of work and made To Tell the Truth one, and I think one other is...), and it would be great to see this article make it! :) FamicomJL 06:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

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Possible revial coming to TBS???

TBS has ordered a pilot of it, and word is it might be scheduled as a late night snow. The source with this information is www.tvgameshows.net 65.31.33.93 (talk) 17:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Same source says the tapings will begin June 21st at TVC. Confirmed. We can't add it though because they have it locked. Ampm2008 (talk) 20:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a verifiable source that is not a blog? --Mhking (talk) 21:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Why isn't Match Game PM covered here?

Why isn't it covered in the main article? It was a bit different from Match Game 7X, so why isn't it mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.201.184.137 (talk) 06:59, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Order of the article

Does it make sense for anyone to have the article chronological? IE: have "The Match Game" (60s) listed first, described, etc., and then have the 70s revival listed, and then the spinoffs? The 70s version may be the most famous today (owed in no small part to its GSN rerunning), but that doesn't necessarily mean it should have its gameplay described before even mentioning that there were other versions with different gameplay, including the original series which lasted several years and was fairly notable. TheHYPO (talk) 18:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

UK infobox?

In the infobox I see "presenter" and "narrated" where there should be "host" or "emcee," and "announcer," respectively. I went in to change these, and instead of my changes being reflected in preview mode, these lines entirely disappeared. "Presenter" is definitely a UK term for this sort of job, and when I was looking for my changes I noticed "channel" which an American would not use in this way; we'd say venue (since there have been syndicated versions, and that is not a "channel" at all). How do we replace this UK infobox with a USA one? --Tbrittreid (talk) 20:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

That's how Wikipedia's Infoboxes are, and are used for all game show articles that use an Infobox (but not all game show articles have them, mind you). And having Syndicated as a "Channel" just un-complicates things. There's no need to have a Television Infobox for each country, hence why you can insert flags for the proper country. Daniel Benfield (talk) 00:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Certainly, I should have said something about the fact that I was assuming the existence of differing infobox forms; my bad. However, there is a Wikipedia policy about nationality-based terminology (spelling, etc.), which this, if it can't be changed, is in violation of. Furthermore, syndication simply is not a channel (BTW, no matter how many people refer to a defunct TV series being rerun on a cable channel as "seen in syndication" there, they are wrong; syndication is being sold to broadcast TV stations across the country on a one-market(city)-at-a-time basis). "Venue" would be a much better label for US programs. These things do need to be changed even if it requires very technical work in the server itself. --Tbrittreid (talk) 21:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed on the disuse of British English; much disagreed on "venue". "syndication" not being a network is less problematic than using a word that is almost never used in this context (in fact, I've only heard it from you). "Network", "Aired" or "Broadcast" (even though cable isn't broadcast, yes) are all more preferable. Lambertman (talk) 21:54, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I use "venue" in this sense because I have indeed encountered it in various TV reference sources. Other than that one little point, thanks for the support. --Tbrittreid (talk) 22:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

CBS winnings limit

From the article as currently written: The CBS daytime version had returning champions and the show "straddled" – that was, episodes often began and ended with games in progress. On this version, champions could stay until they were defeated or won $25,000. Originally, this was the network's winnings limit; anything above that amount was forfeited, but the rule was later changed so that a champion retired after winning $25,000, but could keep up to $35,000. During the six-year run of Match Game on CBS, only one champion retired undefeated. (emphasis added).

In other words, only one of these two things ever happened: Either someone retired undefeated before the rule change with exactly $25,000, or someone retired undefeated after the rule change with $25,000-$35,000. But not both. A rule that existed in theory but was never actually applied (which is the case with one or the other) doesn't need to be mentioned here, or at least not in anything like this level of detail. If a source can be found that states only one champion retired undefeated, can it be determined who it was and how much that person won, list it and leave it at that? ("On this version, champions could stay until they were defeated or reached the network's winnings limit. In the six years of the CBS version, only one player, X, retired undefeated with $xx,xxx.") And also, are we absolutely sure that there wasn't a five-match limit? JTRH (talk) 03:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Episode status

The episode status for the NBC version contradicts itself, saying one episode survives in color and then no episodes survive in color. Also, I have seen the color episode in question at the Paley Center -- it stars Tony Randall and Peggy Cass and it is color videotape, not kinescope. Not sure how someone would verify other than going there and watching, though. Banjochris (talk) 20:47, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

We tend to be a lot more lenient about verifiability of things like "This episode is in the collection of the Paley Center" than "I saw it on GSN three weeks ago," or "This episode circulates among private collectors," neither of which can be verified. JTRH (talk) 00:24, 27 August 2011 (UTC)