Talk:Mate (beverage)

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Consumption in the middle east[edit]

  • Luxner, Larry (Nov–Dec 1995). "Yerba Mate: The South American Leaf". Saudi Aramco World. Retrieved 2009-01-25.  First paragraph: "Syrians, Lebanese and Arabs of the Gulf region". And later in the article, "Argentina's biggest customer for yerba mate last year was Syria, which bought 5.8 million kilograms of mate valued at around $7.4 million."
  • "Yerba Mate: What? Where? How? When?". ushuaia.pl. Retrieved 2009-01-25.  "Another important region of yerba mate drinking in the world is Middle East, mainly Syria and Lebanon. The habit of drinking yerba mate came to this region with emigrants returning from South America. Syria is world's biggest importer of yerba mate."

I'm not entirely sure why this should not be mentioned in the lede. Discussion should be had before it is removed again. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:10, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

"Yerba"[edit]

Yerba means nothing more than herb, and should be translated here as such. Mate is popular in many south america countries, and each one will simply call it "mate herb" in its own language. There is no special meaning to the word "yerba" for it to be used here. Just call it herb. In many parts across the article you can also substitute "yerba" for "mate". - Someone - February 19, 2015

Spanish "mate"[edit]

In the past there was much discussion about "mate" vs. "maté". It has several times been settled in favor of "mate", since the other form in Spanish refers to killing. I am now curious about the meaning of "mate" in Spanish. The other day I was in a paint store where they had both English and Spanish labels on the various forms of paint. What we call "flat" in English was called "mate" in Spanish! This appeared several times in different forms, such as "semi-flat". Can a Spanish speaker enlighten us about the meaning of "mate" in "yerba mate"? Lou Sander (talk) 13:50, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps you should try a translation website: https://translate.google.ca/#en/es/matte
Similarly, there are many homonyms in English. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
I love this kind of discussions on the Wordreference forums. --RoRo (talk) 23:54, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
All this is great, but it might just be easier to find a South American Spanish speaker who just knows the origin of yerba mate. So far, I grok "flat herb". Lou Sander (talk) 01:27, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
You will be answered on that forum. --RoRo (talk) 14:20, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Well, I bit the bullet and did all the work of joining. Part of the fun was that they deleted all of my detailed, well-thought-out post because new members aren't allowed to include links. Sigh! But I persisted and hopefully I'll get an answer. The forum DOES look pretty good. My post is HERE. Lou Sander (talk) 15:29, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
It is not a spanish originated word, it is indigenous, and comes from the word "mati" in quéchua language. The "mate" without an accent is therefore closer to the pronounce of the original word, and "maté" is most likely just a local variation. In Brazil it is never called "maté". Though "mati" was meant to name the recipient, not the herb, that name stayed. -- Anon (same person as discussion above) - March 02 2015