Talk:Matrifocal family

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East London research[edit]

(The following part of a post is copied from matriarchy Talk: Nick Levinson (talk) 14:51, 14 June 2012 (UTC))

If someone has a chance to look, there are some papers that discuss Young & Wilmott's Family & Kinship in East London on (white) working-class British families in terms of matrifocality. Itsmejudith (talk) 18:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I just looked at the book (not papers about it). I'm not going to follow this up; perhaps someone else will consider it. It has only one index entry for matri-, namely matrilocal residence. I don't feel confident in applying what the book says about matrilocality to this article. I probably won't be able to get this book through interlibrary loan since libraries here have it for in-library use and using it in the libraries creates a time conflict for me. The book I saw was Young, Michael, & Peter Willmott, Family and Kinship in East London (London: Routledge & Kegan Paul, cloth cover, 3d impression 1965, 1st published 1957) (author Young fellow Churchill Coll., Cambridge, & author Willmott degree in sociology, London Univ.). Nick Levinson (talk) 17:19, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks very much for looking it up, but I am not surprised you can get nothing from the book itself. Yes, this is the one, and it is a landmark study in the sociology of Britain, referred to in virtually every undergraduate textbook. You are right, they do not describe the families they find as "matrifocal". They do find matrilocality, since most of the young married couples they met could not afford to live independently, and they usually chose to live with the wife's parents. Y&W go into detail about the support that mothers gave to married daughters, and how frequently mothers and daughters met (daily, even when living separately). It was later writers who noted parallels with matrifocal families. This parallel is important in the present-day sociology of Britain, because it indicates two sources for our high rates of mother-headed households: Caribbean-British matrifocality, and the quite mother-centred white-working class families studied by Y&W. Also notable is the frequency of relationships between white working class and Caribbean people. So, potentially a lot to say, but will take time to find the best sources that discuss Y&W. Itsmejudith (talk) 19:06, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
If you can do that, that would be great. It sounds like it can be done without synthesis. Best wishes. Nick Levinson (talk) 15:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

probably a source on Thai women[edit]

An apparent source on matrifocality, but I don't want to evaluate it for Wikipedia: <ref>Tantiwiramanond, Darunee, & Shashi Pandey, ''The Status and Role of Thai Women in the Pre-Modern Period: A Historical and Cultural Perspective'', in ''Sojourn: Journal of Social Issues in Southeast Asia'', vol. 2, no. 1 (February, 1987), p. 127 and probably ''ff.'' (author Tantiwiramanond fellow, Women's Studies Research Center, Univ. of Wisc., & author Pandey fellow, Land Tenure Ctr., Univ. of Wisc.) (in ''JStor'' (database) (subscription may be required)).</ref> Nick Levinson (talk) 20:44, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

merger or unmerger with the gynarchy article[edit]

The merger of gynarchy into this article has been questioned. See Talk:Gynarchy#IP's proposal to merge with Matriarchy and please discuss there, not here, to centralize discussion. Nick Levinson (talk) 16:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

discussion on past merger[edit]

A discussion about the merging nearly a year ago of the gynarchy article into this article has been newly begun as part of another discussion at Talk:Matriarchy#main definitions besides feminist. Nick Levinson (talk) 20:59, 10 November 2013 (UTC)