Talk:Mazhar Abro

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Sources[edit]

I'm open-minded as to the notability of the article, but am sure that offline sources can be perfectly acceptable. In Wikipedia:Citing Sources we have the sentence "If your source is not findable online, it should be findable in reputable libraries, archives, or collections. If a citation without an external link is challenged as unfindable, any of the following is sufficient to show the material to be reasonably findable (though not necessarily reliable): providing an ISBN or OCLC number; linking to an established Wikipedia article about the source (the work, its author, or its publisher); or directly quoting the material on the talk page, briefly and in context." The source Phil Bridger added is online (albeit behind a subscription wall), and appears to comes from a press release (from a notable press agency), and to have been reproduced in the also-notable Financial Times. That looks like an OK source to me. Gonzonoir (talk) 11:49, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He's right, sources do not have to be free-accessible and certainly do not have to be online. Not only that, the "Pakistan Press International" and the MyLibrary website are a reputable sources (much more than some of the online sources people use for other articles). In fact, if a U.S. author had that many credits to his name and the award, there would be no question of notability. Wiki is not biased on nationality, and the fact that internet converge isn't as extensive for Pakistan as it is for the U.S. certainly shouldn't be held against someone by demanding an online source. There might have been a conflict of interest in the creation of the article, but that does not immediately dismiss an article as having no notability. It's not surprising that an author not widely known in the U.S. didn't have an article made for him like the ones made for every single character in Harry Potter.

Darrenhusted 's comment "if a user cannot easily check on the source then it is not verifiable" would immediately disqualify most books that actually required someone to go to a library and do research. The fact that the web site is free to register also dismisses any complaint about it not being easily to access.24.190.34.219 (talk) 02:19, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Subjectivity and inadequate citations[edit]

In my assessment, this page has suffered from the relentless attempt of one editor, who seems by the similarity of names to be directly associated with the subject of the article, to present Mazhar Abro in the most flattering way. This has involved the inclusion of hyperbolic statements, poorly referenced statements and unreferenced statements. Citations to reliable, authoritative, and neutral third-party sources are essential. Wikipedia requires them. Two good sets of Wikipedia guidelines that I have found really useful can be found HERE and HERE. Regards, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 06:07, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Abro does seem to have been recognized by the Pakistan Academy of Letters. [1] I agree that there are issues with tone and all, but do you have any issue with this one sourced item? Pseudonymous Rex (talk) 07:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Pseudonymous Rex, no I don't. But I encourage you please to watch this page, which has at times been full of subjectivity and peacocking. Thanks and regards, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 08:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Pseudonymous Rex, even in the short time when I was writing my message to you the peacocking has returned to this page. Please help me to keep this page neutral, accurate and well referenced. My regards, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 08:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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