Talk:Medievalism

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Isaac Asimov[edit]

Then in Isaac Asimov's Caves of Steel, a "medievalist" is someone who pines for the good old days of the 20th century... AnonMoos 06:53, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think we need to worry about the fictional definitions :) I followed a link to this article from an article about the Gothic Revival (architecture, not literature). Context: "The Gothic Revival was paralleled and supported by medievalism, which had its roots in antiquarian concerns with survivals and curiosities. " When I read the introduction to the medievalism article, I thought the link must be wrong, as it's not at all the same. There is a disambiguation note at the bottom. If there are two different meanings, we either need to note that at the start of the article and restructure it completely (what came first in history should probably come first in the article); or we need a disambiguation page leading to... ooh, dunno. "Medievalism in the Romantic period" and "Medievalism in the twentieth century" pages, perhaps?
Thoughts? I don't know much at all about either branch, but someone might!
Telsa (talk) 09:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Separate pages[edit]

We need separate pages for medievalism and medieval studies. They are not the same thing, even if the latter grew out of the former. Medievalism is a cultural movement or affiliation, whereas medieval studies is an academic discipline. Confusion arises from the fact that the term "medievalist" refers to members of both.

Piratehead 13:28, 23 December 2006

I agree with Piratehead. The term universally for the academic study of the middle ages is Medieval studies, whereas Medievalism does not refer to this any more but the use/influence of the medieval on the modern (i.e. in works or art, literature, philosophy,etc.). Medieval studies should stop being a redirect here but instead point here in a section on 'The History of Medieval Studies' when discussing the origin of the field. If no one objects on this discussion page in a 'reasonable amoutn of time' then I'm going to split the two pages. JCummings (talk) 16:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the above, someone carrying out academic medieval studies might call themselves a 'medievalist', but medievalism is a cultural interest in things medieval and in particular their incorporations into cultural production, eg. music, art, dance. This is quite seperate and the redirections is confusing. --Sabrebd (talk) 18:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Given the consensus here I carried out this division and expanded the article, incorporating other points from this talk page.--Sabrebd (talk) 21:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Medievalism as slur[edit]

It seems that the term medievalism is also used in a pejorative sense by those who are thought to carry outmoded or dated ideas. Conservatives in general are often called medieval by Progressives. ADM (talk) 13:52, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

See neomedievalism. That's usually the term used in a (American) politics context. But it has both positive and negative connotations. It originated as a positive term in the 1970s, and more recently became a term of derision. Green Cardamom (talk) 23:47, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Language Link[edit]

The link to the German Wiki page "Mediaevistik" is wrong as this is "medieval studies". Actually I couldn't figure what "medievalism" would be in German. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.117.253.157 (talk) 09:20, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I deleted it. It is likely that the same problem occurs in the other links, so anyone with language skills feel free to help.--SabreBD (talk) 09:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)