Talk:Merle Haggard

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Can Someone Link the NPR Interview of Merle?[edit]

I wish I had more time. Its really great and is a good source on Haggard's life and his thoughts. It can be found at NPR.org (was aired or at least re-aired just today 10/3/2009)

Sean7phil (talk) 19:37, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Questions[edit]

Two questions — Is the correct song title, "The Bottle Let Me Done", or "The Bottle Let Me Down"? If Haggard was sent up for 15 yrs., how do we explain that he got out after only 3? --Jose Ramos 13:48, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Down, not done Parole-- that's the way he got out early; good behaviour, and usually a person must report to a Parole Officer in the U.S. and submit to a monthly meeting and random drug urinalysis for illicit drugs.

"The Bottle Let Me DOWN" that the name of the song! Alakey2010 29 April 2006 - 10:21 pm

Photo[edit]

Can somebody add a picture of Merle Haggard for this article? I would, but I still don't know how to do it.

Here's a pic of Merle:

[1]

Wikipedia Style[edit]

Sound man73, your linking of all the song and album names to a series of external myspace is not "the way you do it" in Wikipedia. Links if made are to other internal Wikipedia articles (such as is there for a couple of albums). The external web pages are just referenced at the end under an External links section.

Accordingly, I've reverted out all those external links, leaving in any other changes you made to the article at the same time. Wasted Time R 9 July 2005 03:57 (UTC)

Johnny Cash concert[edit]

The article states "Merle attended three of Johnny Cash's concerts at San Quentin in three different years." -- Prehaps there were earlier concerts, but the famous Johnny Cash appearance at San Quentin took place in 1969 -- nine years after Haggard got out.

So, is the quoted sentence an error, or were there earlier (pre-1960) appearances by Cash at San Quentin?

It must be an error, probably means 1970. In 1960 you did NOT get out of prison after only 3 years of 15 year sentance. Reagan was elected in 1968, so 1970 fits as a pardon (release) date, and allows Haggard to have been at Cash's concert(s). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.74.73 (talk) 21:12, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

In 1969 Merle was long out of prison as a matter of fact 1969 is the year that Okie from muskogee was released. Johnny Cash did not make repeated visits to the CA prison system. He gave two concerts only one at Folsom and one at San Quentin these were in 1969. I have heard this story before about Merle seeing Johhny Cash in prison but it is simply not true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.173.8 (talk) 22:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Where is Big boy?[edit]

One of his largest albums (and individual hits) and it doesn't even get mentioned on the wiki entry.

???

Where is Big Boy? He's out in front of the Bob's where he belongs. Where are you and what are you talking about? Mr. B., NH, 4/21/09 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.9.5.145 (talk) 19:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Feud with Willie Nelson?[edit]

Is there source somewhere to back up the information about the feud with Willie Nelson? I notice they recorded an album together. Joyous | Talk 23:29, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

thi article is full of bull. This article is full of bull parsons and haggard never wrote together haggard was an established star who parsons covered The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.94.6.28 (talk • contribs) .

Reason for revert to Feb 7 version[edit]

I agree with the anonymous editor above. The edits by User:PeterTores introduced several suspicious and unsourced pieces of information: that Merle Haggard and Willie Nelson had a feud going, that Haggard owed much of his success to Gram Parsons, etc. In fact, a good chunk of Haggard's article became a tribute to Gram Parsons. I'm not able to pick out the fiction from the fact in that large edit by PeterTores, but I feel that enough of it is suspect that I've removed it all. There have been some other minor edits since Feb 7, and I'll try to restore those. My apologies if I miss any. Joyous | Talk 16:55, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Photo[edit]

As someone has deleted the Time Magazine cover for copyright issues, I think we need a new photo.

http://www.omguide.com/images/full_merle.jpg (This would be good with some cropping) Neal2028 03:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I put a new picture of Merle Haggard! The picture is the album cover of his latest album.

Did Some Updating[edit]

I put 3 or 4 pictures of Merle and all of his awards and albums on his page! So there are some new pictures for y'all! - Alakey2010

I'm not sure if I'm doing this correctly, but I wanted to point out some political bias in the entry. Here's the offending section:

"Later, Alabama Gov. George Wallace asked Haggard for an endorsement, which Haggard declined. However, Haggard does express sympathy with the "parochial" or conservative way of life expressed in "Okie" and songs such as "The Fightin' Side of Me" (ibid). It should be noted, however, that after "Okie" was released, Haggard wanted to release a self-penned song entitled "Irma Jackson" about an interracial couple; the single was quashed by his record company, although Tony Booth went on to record it in 1970."

The "however" at the start (fifth word) of the 3rd sentence suggests that not being opposed to interracial relationships (i.e., not racist against blacks) is somehow inherently contradictory of the attitudes reflected in "Okie" and "The Fightin' Side of Me" (i.e., conservatism). This is not the case. Like Haggard, I am not a southernor but if I were, I would find this implication offensive.---sasmith68

Death row[edit]

While put in solitary confinement on death row, Haggard encountered author and death row inmate Caryl Chessman.

This sentence makes it sound like Haggard was sentenced to death. If that's true, it needs to be expanded. If not (I'm guessing that's the case), the "on death row" part could be eliminated, since "death row inmate" covers where he was (physically) without introducing confusion. 141.151.181.162 04:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


Voice[edit]

Can his voice really be described as "deep" or "grumbling"? Maybe his soul, but definitely not his voice. step_sideways 07:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Merle haggard chicago wind album.jpg[edit]

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boxcar house[edit]

Can someone tell me about the boxcar house? There's a ruined boxcar with a residential door along the tracks at Norris. I used to work with someone who knew him as a child who told me the boxcar house was is/was in Beardsley or McCord, but I haven't seen anything like that there. Frotz (talk) 18:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Removed paragraph[edit]

I removed the following paragraph from the Country success section as non-neutral and lacking sources. It appears to contain useful information, so if someone is interested in incorporating it:

Rather than rest on his laurels, Haggard then began another productive stretch of his career from 1980-1985 by recording 13 #1 country hits such as "I Think I'll Just Stay Here and Drink," "Big City," "That's the Way Love Goes," "My Favorite Memory," and "Pancho and Lefty" (w/ Willie Nelson). These songs were among his greatest selling of all time and his music helped lead a resurgence in country music in the early 1980's (along with Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, Conway Twitty, and George Jones, among others). Haggard's music showcased his talent as both a songwriter and artist and gained more broad appeal during this time. His autobiographical narrative, "Kern River" (1985) pulls at the heartstrings in reflecting upon young love lost and the impact of human sorrow, framing the mighty Kern River as a metaphor for life lessons learned. Yet, Haggard remained optimistic about life by recording carefree tunes such as "Rainbow Stew" (1981), which yearns for a greener planet and more pleasant times ahead: "Eatin' rainbow stew with a silver spoon, Underneath that sky are blue, We’ll all be drinking that free bubble up, And eatin' that rainbow stew." Tongue in cheek or otherwise, Haggard refused to shy away from controversial topics and continued to sing the song of the common man without regard for political correctness (A trend that began with "Okie From Muskogee"). inserted into article by User:Dkrikorian ([[User talk:Dkrikorian]|talk])

Incorrect Lyrics[edit]

The lyrics listed for "Murder on Music Row" are incorrect. The reference is to Hank Williams, not Merle Haggard ("Ol'Hank", not "The Hag") Rhinotim (talk) 04:31, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


(John User:Jwy talk) 22:05, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Song[edit]

Apparently, his song "I'm a White Boy" (from A Working Man Can't Get Nowhere Today) is now being used as bumper music for the Derek Black Show. I wonder if Haggard gave Derek Black permission to use the song or not? Does anyone know? Stonemason89 (talk) 01:37, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

His father's death and his early life of crime[edit]

Haggard both in his autobiography and in numerous interviews given, has been careful not to connect his criminal troubles with his father's death. Paavo273 (talk) 00:08, 3 February 2013 (UTC) While it's a reasonable inference to make a connection, since the subject of the article has been careful to avoid making it, the editors of this article should not do so either. What Haggard did state was a factor was being alone and being much younger than his siblings, to whom he did not relate well. Also, he mentioned that his mother was gone a lot. Haggard has actually been very careful, at least in public, to not criticize his family but rather to focus on how he *felt* when his dad died and when his legal troubles started in adolescence. The editors of this article should be respectful of the article's subject in this area. On the other hand, I have obviously not read authoritative source about Haggard. If someone has a valid source that connects the father's death to his troubled youth, then by all means it can be included, as well as rebuffed by other sources. Paavo273 (talk) 00:14, 3 February 2013 (UTC) I did not delete the information about his dad dying which is obviously incredibly important to the article. Paavo273 (talk) 00:16, 3 February 2013 (UTC) I'm just saying let the reader determine the connection, if any, for himself/herself. Of course, if someone feels strongly about the connection of the father's death and the criminal problems, he/she can make the connection provided he/she has a valid source. Paavo273 (talk) 00:20, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Father's death year is wrong?[edit]

The Merle Haggard website bio[1], among other websites, reads that his father died when he was 9. Wouldn't that make the year 1946, not 1945 as is written in the article? It appears from his gravestone, that the date is 1946 as well, June 19 to be exact. [2] I'm unsure about challenging the existing reference though, so leaving this in the talk section. Joel S Bateman 20:01, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

  1. ^ http://merlehaggard.com/bio
  2. ^ http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=39842658