Talk:Mexico City Metropolitan Cathedral

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=Pendulum[edit]

Untitled[edit]

Could someone please explain the meaning/purpose behind the pendulum that hangs down from the center of the building? See here: http://www.travelpod.com/travel-photo/somasized/h.s.v.ii/1162102200/dsc01062.jpg/tpod.html

Article rewrite[edit]

I rewrote the article although I didnt realize I wasnt logged in when I did it. Thelmadatter (talk) 18:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Reference[edit]

Cant figure out why the references appear in the wrong place. Thelmadatter (talk) 18:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

What is it exactly about the references that isn't working right? They seem ok to me.  LinguistAtLarge  18:54, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Phew![edit]

put a lot of work into this Thelmadatter (talk) 18:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for the rating. Ill take any suggestions for improving this article.Thelmadatter (talk) 23:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Ideas for improving the article[edit]

I've made some changes to the article, hopefully you will see them as improvements. Here are some further ideas for improvement.  LinguistAtLarge  18:53, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

  • Just have one list of chapels, starting at front left and going in clockwise order. Remove the "east" and "west" designations. This will remove one "level" of indentation for the headings.
  • Unlink the dozens of years that are currently linked. The links are probably unnecessary and distracting. See WP:OVERLINK.
  • Reduce the number of redlinks in the article by either creating stubs for those articles, or unlinking them. See WP:REDLINK. For example some of the architects and other people mentioned in the article may not meet the notability requirements for an article, and thus can be unlinked.
  • Expand the Sacristy section a bit, (so the photo doesn't run into the next section below it).
  • Perhaps remove the "Chapel of" from the names of all the chapels. Since they are in the Chapels section, that should be a given.
  • Expand the 4 items in the "Other features" section (Organs, Crypt, Choir and Paintings). Or, if these items can't be expanded, remove the 4 headings I added and replace the whole thing with prose.
    • Done This looks done enough to cross off the list  LinguistAtLarge  17:08, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge the two chapel galleries with the gallery at the bottom of the page OR remove those two galleries and add one small image per chapel, alternating left and right for each chapel, at maybe 100px in size, so they fit within the space for each chapel.
    • Done. Included some of the pictures inline, and moved the rest to the gallery at the bottom of the article.  LinguistAtLarge  20:50, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Check relevance of external links, and give each remaining link a descriptive title.
  • Consider removing the gallery entirely (see this), after seeing if one or two of the pictures would go well inline in the article.
    • Done. Gallery moved to the talk page for now  LinguistAtLarge  22:51, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Research the term sagrarium and see if it is the appropriate word for sagrario in Spanish. See Church tabernacle, Sacrarium, Sagrario. "Sagrarium" doesn't appear in my M-W collegiate dictionary, and the translation for "sagrario" in my unabridged Harper collins Spanish-English dict is "shrine, tabernacle, sacrarium". After deciding what the correct term is, the entire Sagrarium section would need to be converted.  LinguistAtLarge  21:30, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Changed term to "tabernacle"

Gallery[edit]

Available images not currently being used in this article.  LinguistAtLargeMsg  01:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Removed the actual gallery from this talk page to cut down on clutter. All the images and many more can be viewed on the Commons category page: Metropolitan Cathedral of Mexico City category. — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  20:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Bell towers[edit]

In the "Bell towers" section, it refers to the north/south towers, but the cathedral faces roughly south. Shouldn't those references be changed to east and west towers?  LinguistAtLarge  04:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Sure enough! Good catch... Ill go back to my book when I get home and double check which tower has how many bells.Thelmadatter (talk) 17:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Tziluca[edit]

I removed the reference to Tziluca in the "Bell towers" section because I'm pretty sure it's erroneous. There are only a handful of Google hits for Tziluca, and some are copies of this article. Might it be Toluca?

Here is the change I made:

  • (original) "They are capped with bell-shaped roofs made of tezontle covered in chiluca (a white stone from Tziluca)."
  • (current) "They are capped with bell-shaped roofs made of tezontle covered in chiluca, a white stone."

 LinguistAtLargeMsg  19:45, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Saint Rose of Saint Mary[edit]

In the "Bell towers" section, it mentions Saint Rose of Saint Mary. Is this correct, or is it supposed to be Saint Rose and Saint Mary?  LinguistAtLargeMsg  17:46, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Re-added the gallery![edit]

I re-added a gallery, I think it looks great and really is an improvement for this article.

--Eternalsleeper (talk) 06:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Eteranalsleeper, and thanks for contributing those images. I have taken the liberty to do a couple of things per Wikipedia policy (for reference, read MOS:IMAGES and WP:IUP#Image galleries). First, I have moved all eight images to commons, a repository for free content. This way the images can be used on any of the wiki projects. After moving the images, I made sure they were all in the Metropolitan Cathedral of Mexico City category, then I added a link to that category from the Mexico City Metropolitan Cathedral page. If you go to the bottom, in the External links section, you'll see the link to the commons category. In this category, you can view all 70+ images of the cathedral. I hope I have explained my actions adequately, if you have any questions, just ask. — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  20:55, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


I created a gallery in the Commons and put all the pictures I could find in it. and theres a link to the gallery page at the bottom of this article.189.145.60.133 (talk) 01:18, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Which one is the oldest?[edit]

The article of the Catedral de Santa María la Menor claims that it is the oldest cathedral of the Americas. The same is said of the Metropolitan Cathedral. Which one is the true?

Kauderwelsch (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)


Wrong year for the fire[edit]

The fire was actually on January 17, 1967, not 1962. This mistake, unfortunately, has been copied now in many places in the English-language web.

Here is a quote in the book "Ensayos sobre la Ciudad de México" : El 17 de enero de 1967 un incendio en la Catedral metropolitana de Mexico, ocasionado por defectos de las instalacions electricas, deterioro el Altar de Perdon y parte del Coro. . . .

I think this was the only major fire in the 60s, since the Spanish-language wiki doesn't mention a 1962 fire, and the only sources for it I could find for it are all in English and all share the same wording--quoting this article, I assume.

An easy enough fix, but I just wanted to make sure everyone agrees I'm not mistaken. 66.58.143.86 (talk) 22:37, 26 April 2014 (UTC)