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MTV Cops[edit]

I'm trying to find an elegant way to edit the article to include the "MTV Cops" memo being an urban legend. It's debunked on the Season One featurette "Making the Perfect Vice" --- I brought this up once before, and in the discussion it was determined that this could be added in; however, I've found since my last visit, that additional references reiterating the "legend of the memo" have been added in, as well as a reference to the featurette, but only including the information immediately following the part where they refer to it as a "legend" and being "more fact than fiction." (I'm not sure why since it had been discussed...)

I had sometime prior edited the article to simply refer to the memo as a legend, but that was reverted. This seems to be the most streamlined way to add this in, but the way the article has since been edited, it almost seems like it's suitable to start a whole new section mentioning that it's referred to as a legend. There's tons of websites that refer to it as such, and the DVD featurette is already sourced within the same paragraph.

Any ideas? Thanks! BubbaStrangelove (talk) 17:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, cool - I checked the links already cited for the "MTV Cops" line, and the citation to the Official NBC site states flat-out, "Legend has it...". The other references only speak of the memo as hearsay. Then I added clarification on the later part that's attached to the DVD featurette indicating Yerkovich's comments about it being conceived based off the story of seized goods. I left the references there, and if anyone wants to remove them they can, but I don't see a need for it aside for aesthetics, since 4 references for something pretty easily verifiable seems excessive. BubbaStrangelove (talk) 09:53, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Prior to the show's creation, two DEA agents had been running riot in Miami, having been assigned there soon after shooting a prominent protester affiliated with Vietnam Veterans Against the War in the back, following setting him up with a honey-trap cocaine entrapment scheme using a woman under psychiatric care. This occurred in Gainesville,Fl. It's all been in the newspapers. Following that Miami citizens noted the hot-dogging behavior of the two and public relations with the DEA turned bad. The show commenced soon afterwards. It is only speculation, however, that the show was the result of any external pressure on the writers and producers to jollify the portrayal of the law enforcement in the area. Mydogtrouble (talk) 01:28, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Runtime[edit]

I've changed the runtime, for a second time over the course of a couple years, to 60 minutes/120 minutes (including commercials)...

Each episode was not equal in length. This is verifiable on the DVDs, and can be referenced here - http://television.aol.com/show/miami-vice/99778/full-episodes

The topic was discussed the last time I fixed this. That discussion is here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Miami_Vice/Archive_1#Runtime

BubbaStrangelove (talk) 07:42, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I watched all of them...on average they are 48 minutes long. The infobox specifies that runtimes excluding commercials should be given, as is in the article now. Shows in the 80's ran longer than today. El Greco(talk) 21:19, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I've watched all of them as well, the first 3 seasons during the original air, all the seasons when they started airing on USA, then TNT, then Spike, those these were edited. When the DVDs came out I watched them there as well. None of this matters because original research doesn't count (maybe sometimes it should...) Anyway, my familiarity with making mobile copies of the show was what prompted me to originally make note that they vary in length. Again though OR doesn't matter. The running times are easily verifiable through the availability of them online. It could be said those are cut, but some run over 49 minutes in length. Would it work to add in "on average", is it something that should go by consensus, and when do wikipedia infobox specifications override factual and verifiable information. I think these are things we should discuss before doing reverts. I'm thinking since it was perviously discussed, it should be reverted back to 60/120 until there's further discussion. BubbaStrangelove (talk) 05:53, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Ah, okay - I wish I would have looked myself before posting or you would have mentioned the specification also includes that the episodes should be approximated. Sorry for any time I wasted with that one. Thanks for fixing it. BubbaStrangelove (talk) 05:56, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Infobox[edit]

The nicknames are fine as they are. They are both cited and can be left there. El Greco(talk) 00:57, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

What nicknames? There is no nickname section in the info box. There is an also known as section, but that's for actual alternate names. If this is about the "MTV Cops" thing, that's not an actual alternate name. It was a high level description of the show that may or may not have been used during early development, but the show was never called that. It's fine to talk about it in the text, but to list it as an alternate name is obviously wrong. 128.114.59.182 (talk) 23:34, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
It was assigned that nickname at first by TV Guide and consequently that name stuck in pop culture which has carried through even until today in many media reports. Srobak (talk) 15:29, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
But nonetheless not an official alternative name of the show. Stop adding this! 169.233.38.156 (talk) 09:21, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Any truth (WP:RS) to the following ?[edit]

I remember hearing that this show was as special as it was because they used a unique (and expensive) production arrangement. The way I heard it was that there were four separate pre-production crews (writers, sets, etc) and four separate post-production crews (score, editing, etc) so that each episode's crew had a lot more time to produce a high quality product. Only the actors & shoot crew were the same every week. Can anyone shed any light on this either definitively proving or disproving this story (and possibly its origins)? 66.97.213.202 (talk) 22:46, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Useless Info[edit]

Re: Ref#6, What's the point in having a link to a referrence if you have to sign up and pay for an on-line subscription to view it? 207.164.79.14 (talk) 18:08, 9 June 2013 (UTC)