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Statement on NBA.com

Just wondering, but I went to Michael Jordan's biography on NBA.com, and no-where there does it say "By acclamation, Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time."
(Sorry if I got the quote wrong, but hopefully you guys got the idea). Should this statement be removed?
-Izo, 02/03/2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.36.42 (talk)

Did you check the right link? It's the first sentence here, in bold. Zagalejo^^^ 03:49, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh I see. Here's another bio of MJ on nba.com: here. My bad. -Izo, 02/05/2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.36.42 (talk)

Jordan's weight

Trivial, but Jordan's official NBA.com page lists him at 216 lbs:

http://www.nba.com/historical/playerfile/index.html?player=michael_jordan

8/23/11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hubertdavisfor3 (talk • contribs) 16:47, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

We probably should go with that. I don't know where 215 comes from. Zagalejo^^^ 23:41, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Include mention MJ as nickname/moniker

Y Done

Due to a dispute about a literal-minded interpretation of the guideline for disambiguation pages, can this page include an explicit mention of the initials "MJ" as a commonly used shorthand for refering to Jordan? I'm not sure about where to place this information in such a high-profile article like this. While I argue this is simple common sense and that WP:IAR should apply on the dab page, another editor disagrees and insists that there needs to be an explicit reference on this page in order to include Jordan on the MJ dab page. There are many references to "MJ" in the headline of blogs associated with quality news organizations, and also likely many to be found in actual news articles, though those need more careful parsing as "MJ" is less likely to appear in the headline. A few possible sources: "MJ scores with new steakhouse", Chicago Tribune; "Maya Moore talks WNBA playoffs", Toronto Sun Quote: the best basketball player in the world -- MJ himself. Yes, Michael Jordan; [http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/Bobcats-owner-Jordan-still-cashing-in-130568103.html "Michael Jordan makes $60 million in endorsements", WCNC.com., Quote: MJ is still one of the most well-liked athletes in the world. older ≠ wiser 13:47, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Sure. Add to the lead perhaps?—Chris!_c/t 17:20, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

That's typically where such things go, though it just seems a little stupid to me to have to state something that's so obvious. Another possibility might be to introduce it at a later point, something like Jordan (known as "MJ" to fans and sports headline writers), etc.. older ≠ wiser 17:35, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

I think this source is most explicit about MJ being a nickname. But I agree that it'll be awkward to add it here.. "Air Jordan" is at least discussed in context. Zagalejo^^^ 18:00, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

I propose resolving this issue by adding the following sentence to the end of the lead section:

Jordan is sometimes referred to simply by his initials MJ.

Does anyone have any objections? (Disclosure: I am "other editor" mentioned in the original post, who asserts that "MJ" should be mentioned explicitly on this page if Jordan is to be included on the MJ DAB page.) Mitch Ames (talk) 13:14, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I won't fight it. It does seem like a weird thing to end the lead with. We'd probably need to restructure parts of the lead to make a better fit. But I guess it's good enough for right now. Zagalejo^^^ 22:17, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I did consider adding appending it to the sentence that mentions his nicknames "Air Jordan" and "His Airness", but that sentence is about his "leaping ability", not his nickname(s), so adding MJ there would look even sillier than adding a sentence to the end of the lead. Mitch Ames (talk) 23:36, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree that it wouldn't make sense there. Zagalejo^^^ 05:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Done. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:07, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

98-99 season

Why doesn't the article say anything about his 98-99 season? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.82.187.246 (talk) 22:27, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

He had retired before the season began. Zagalejo^^^ 01:04, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Peacocks

Re: statement "[Michael Jordan] was instrumental in popularizing the NBA around the world in the 1980s and 1990s". Please review Wiki policy and just state the facts. There also seem to be many other instances in this article. --Coolbb (talk) 19:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

That specific example is not puffery. There are plenty of sources that discuss his role in popularizing the NBA (see this and this, for a couple of examples.) Zagalejo^^^ 21:59, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

If you want to reword things, feel free, but I don't think that specific statement is egregiously bad. Zagalejo^^^ 23:23, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

So what popularised the nba, if not players? Chensiyuan (talk) 04:08, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Is it clearly a fact that Michael Jordan was instrumental in popularizing the NBA? Is it an opinion, but not clearly a fact? If the latter is the case, then shouldn't it be made clear that the sources consider such to be the case, rather than such necessarily actually being the case? Or is it sufficient to phrase opinions in a factual manner on Wikipedia as long as the opinions are sourced? --Coolbb (talk) 14:53, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I think its a fact but it needs backed up by sources. I know it was a fact that Michael Jordan was instrumental in popularizing the NBA, for me. I watched the NBA because of Jordan. It is also a fact that WGN-TV and WGN America which brought almost all Chicago Bulls and Michael Jordan's games to many homes via cable tv it also was instrumental in popularizing the NBA. This meant that almost every one in the USA could watch every game from like 1989 to 1993 Jordan and the Bulls played at or near their home. 1989 and 1990 they reached the Eastern Conf. Finals losing to Detroit then 1991-1993 was the Bulls 1st 3peat. Theworm777 (talk) 00:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 January 2012

 (Update Info below)

He is a member of Omega Psi Phi Fraternity.

75.246.94.104 (talk) 06:25, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 22:49, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request

in the media sub category can you please mention that michael jordan starred in the michael jackson music video 'Jam' in 1991, and that they were good friends during this time.

Edit request on 7 February 2012

He is a member of Omega Psi Phi Fraternity.

75.216.248.107 (talk) 02:06, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

N Not done, source?--Jac16888 ^Talk 11:11, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 February 2012

I would like to change a few facts on the micheal jordan page

Howardboy1 (talk) 17:29, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed.—Bagumba (talk) 18:41, 22 February 2012 (UTC)