Talk:Mick Karn

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
          This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
WikiProject Biography / Musicians (Rated Start-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by WikiProject Musicians (marked as Low-importance).
 
WikiProject Guitarists (Rated Start-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Guitarists, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Guitarists on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
 
WikiProject Rock music (Rated Start-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Rock music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Rock music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
 ???  This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Cyprus (Rated Start-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cyprus, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Cyprus on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
 ???  This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject London (Rated Start-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject London, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of London on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 



POV[edit]

I've removed this sentence: "With his contribution Japan is often considered one of the most unique and greatest groups of the late glam rock to new wave era." It's POV and needs to be rewritten for legibility. Doozy88 19:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Photo[edit]

Why is the photo credit in the main article? As "kind" as it is for permission to be provided, it should be buried with the picture where it belongs.

Klein Bass[edit]

I am not sure if anyone wants to include this but I was with Mick Karn when he purchased his Klein Bass. He was on tour with Polytown and David Torn was using Klein Guitars. They preformed the Great American Music Hall in San Fransico. The next day he and David came to Klein Guitars and he commisioned the Klein Bass. It was lightly modified from the production version. Shortly there after he was featured on the cover of Bass Player magazine holding the Bass. I personally was responsible for the neck on that instrument. For further information on this part of Klein history I can be contacted at colink at designerinlight dot com. ~ Colin Kaminski —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.234.243.206 (talk) 17:10, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Birth name[edit]

The article currently gives his birth name as "Andonis" and the Guardian obituary (referenced in the article) says "Adonis". Anyone have a good source that would resolve this difference? -- Foetusized (talk) 16:31, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I have a book which states 'Anthony' (Martin C. Strong's The Great Rock Discography) and here's another two that also state Anthony: [1], [2]. The Guardian article appears to have been largely copied from the WP article - I suggest we go with three books stating Anthony rather than nothing else reliable stating Andonis or Adonis. I added sources to this article in February, at which time it stated Anthony, and was sourced; It was changed to 'Andonis' by User:Wayalec (a Mick Karn spa) on 5 September with no new source added to back this up.--Michig (talk) 18:14, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Mick said "Antony" (no h) in his autobiography, to add to the confusion. Mezigue (talk) 21:22, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
The Associated Press is going with "Andonis" in their obituary -- [3] -- Foetusized (talk) 21:58, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
I think the likely thing is he was christened Andonis in Cyprus, and it was anglicised when he moved to the UK. Right now the intro and box on the right contradict each other. Mezigue (talk) 01:28, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I think the case that Mick was born Antonis is not yet proven and is based on a subjective and secondary source. I originally altered "Antony" to "Andonis" and now I see it has been changed to "Antonis". I think one should remember that Mick was born on Cyprus of Cypriot Greek speaking parents and he was most likely christened in their native tongue. Whilst I admit that Antonis is a common Greek name and is usually Anglicised to "Antony" Cypriots do not speak Greek but a distinct separate dialect called Kypriaka. Andonis may not be as common in Greece as Antonis but that is not proof that Mick was called Antonis in Cyprus. On Cyprus he was likely Andonis. Also observe that Greek and Kypriaka use letter forms which cannot be easily transposed into Latin forms so errors can evolve. Until Mick's Birth Certificate in Kypriaka turns up why not assume Mick is the best source on his own name? If you read his autobiography "Japan and Self Existence" on page 172 you will find the following: "Somehow, Kyriacos was translated into English as Colin, and Andonis into Antony....no thank you" in the next paragraph Mick continues "The strange thing is, that since moving to Cyprus in 2004, apart from a few official places like the local council or the bank, I've become Andonis Michaelides again" So if Mick called himself Andonis in English then surely that is all the referrence you need to adjust the main article with his correct name. I know its pedantic but if you have read Mick's book you will see that it's just the kind of arrogance and assumption that he disliked and he clearly did not liked being branded with the Anglicised "Antony", which was a motivator in creating "Mick Karn". If Mick wrote Andonis then surely he would know? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.107.129 (talk) 13:14, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Posthumously released??[edit]

It reads "On 30 August 2010, Peter Murphy disclosed via video message (subsequently removed/hidden) on his personal Facebook profile that he would be reuniting with Mick Karn for a week in London, perhaps in November, to begin writing and recording for a second Dalis Car album. Murphy also added that this would be the first time the two had seen each other since 1983.[7] According to the biography on Karn's website, the work they recorded will be released as an EP later in 2011.[8]" so I wonder if this EP has been released posthumously yet. 83.87.140.201 (talk) 17:49, 27 August 2012 (UTC)