Talk:Mike Jones (rapper)

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Who? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.217.71.52 (talk) 01:38, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Grow up[edit]

Why are you guys hating on this guy so much, if i was in his shoes i woulda done the same thing. Y'all just Jealous that mike jones has money and you dont. grow up. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autossdasdsa askhbd asd.bd;asdh;bdaskbdfgjhdqw klmsajnb dfjhkjnldkmsad

IM MIKE JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONES! IM A DUMB MUTHER FUCKER YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA This is from the wikipedia article (3/31/06):

"Repeating a line multiple times (a line is repeated eight times in a row on the track "Back Then") in succession is said to violate an unspoken and widely accepted rap rule of repetition. He backs up his style by explaining that the repetition emphasizes key points he wants to get across to listeners"

blows me

If anyone wants to include something about Mike Jones' use of repetition they are welcome to, just don't make stuff up about the "rap rule of repetition" If there really was a rule, then friggin' Lil' John would be kicked of rap out for saying "Yeah" a thousand times per song.

Lil' Jon is more a producer than rapper. Making it acceptable in his case.

Interesting point. I don't think he so much violates any rule of rap, it more violates standard pop music chorus structure, a structure that most rap follows. Perhaps the section could be modified to word it in this way. Eli lilly 17:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


Also, he tends to repeat lines throughout the verses in many different songs. - Liker26 He resembles a character from the cartoon 'The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.239.96.83 (talk) 13:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

The real reason he repeats his self and his name is because his mom told him if you want people to remember you or what you say, you have to stay with it, and say it alot. But, we know your name, stop it already. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.246.28.130 (talk) 17:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Redirect[edit]

Why does Back Then redirect you to Mike Jones?

  • It's a song of his. - Stoph 06:06, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
  • I know it is a song of his but why would someone expect to find Mike Jones when searching for his song Back Then?
  • Most songs are not notable enough by themselves to take a whole page, when linking to Mike Jones would give much better information. If you have something important to say about Back Then it probably would fit on this page anyway. - Stoph 03:13, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
  • The song is already notable enough, so why don't put a page on it already?
  • More importantly, why does Big Moe redirect here?

Don't foget Mike Jones is not a copyright name. I'm Mike Jones and I've got something to say. 82.34.56.112 20:20, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Image[edit]

Is this image, Image:5fsf43hjsdfJe.jpg, a copyvio? It has a website in the image... - Stoph 03:13, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm assuming so. I'm taking it down until I see a public domain on the image's page.--67.50.233.108 04:22, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Grammar[edit]

Why is this page covered in mispelled words and z's for that matter? The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.102.147.253 (talk • contribs) 16:39, 13 December 2005 UTC.

This page is a frequent target for vandalism. I have reverted the changes. - Stoph 20:36, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Why?[edit]

Mike Jones is a joke in the rap community, and he reflects poorly on rap as a whole to outsiders. Come on, guys. Eventually, common knowledge overcomes the need for documentation. Did you cite the source that claims the sky is blue? That fire is hot? Mike Jones is a bad rapper for the rap game and makes rap look bad. Thank you come again.

You know what? I think I agree. You should work this fact in somehow, it's a major part of his reputation. BTNH 16:30, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Mike Jones is a good rapper in that he brings it back to rap's roots as party music. Rap needs a good pruning of the post-NWA thug branch. Eli lilly 17:49, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

No, actually Mike Jones is one of the worst rappers out there today.

Confusion about Mike Joneses[edit]

Somebody seems to think that Mike Jones the rapper from Houston is the same person as Mike Jones the male prostitute from Denver who has recently said he had sex with and bought meth for Ted Haggard. The news story at this link has a picture of Mike Jones the male prostitute, which shows that he's a middle-aged white man, whereas Mike Jones the rapper is a black man in his 20s.

I'm removing the references in this article that have to do with Mike Jones the prostitute, as a result.

Categories[edit]

I think that he should be added to the "Prison Break Actors" Category, because he was a important part of the 1st escape attempt

why does it say that Mike Jones is 6 year old ???????

Vandalism. Remember to sign your comments! --PureRED - Kyle Floyd 00:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Request for Comment[edit]

This is a dispute over the newsworthyness and notability of Mike Jones' performance at Iowa State University's VEISHEA celebration. --22:09, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Statements by editors previously involved in dispute

  • User:Evasive101 (talk · contribs) keeps reverting edits by anonymous editors in regards to the botched performance by Mike Jones at ISU's VEISHEA celebration. While it may be quick to dismiss such edits as acts of vandalism, the incident did occur. It was witnessed by at least a thousand concert-goers and reported in the local news. Numerous videos have also been posted on YouTube showing the performance (here and here), as well as the aggravation the crowd felt prior to his late arrival. According to the provided edit summaries, User:Evasive101 (talk · contribs) claims the incident is not notable, happens to many artists, and is not news-worthy. The purpose of this RFC is to seek third opinion and to help reach a consensus on what is notable. --Ted 22:09, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I don't believe this should be posted on the page. It lacks newsworthiness, because all of those reference links are student editorials. They are opinions, not facts. Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral, and should not cater to a few student's opinions about his performance. If this is kept on his page, do you think 1 year from now, will people really care if Mike Jones was late to a concert and only performed half the songs? --Evasive101 22:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I think the new section added to the article needs to be removed. An encyclopedia should not contain information for which the citation is an op-ed piece. It's clearly POV, too. Eli lilly 01:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Comments

  • Seems trivial to me. Demong 23:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I don't think it's relevant or newsworthy. Not only that, but I don't think there's any proof, it's also a persons opinion as to whether the performance was bad or not. I say keep it out, it's not NPoV and not encyclopedic in nature. --PureRED - Kyle Floyd 00:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Its neither trivial nor not NpoV. Its not trivial because it speaks of the character and quality of the artist. As far as newsworthiness take a look at this, this and this other news article from the Iowa State Daily the prominent student newspaper of Iowa State University the place where the events happened. As for the NPoV-ness of the blurb, I don't think you can be more NPoV with such a small sentence. The event can be surmised in "He was 30mins late and never finished a single song in the half-set he performed." MentalPower 05:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Ok, but isn't local-coverage-only an indication of triviality? The guidelines on trivia recommend considering who the trivia is important to. The incident is important to VEISHEA, and this same content is in that article (better-cited... I think this was copy-pasted from there, minus refs?), where I think it should stay. Is it also important to Mike Jones? Not really, imo. Every "important" poor performance I can think of involved national or international media attention. (Note that I have no familiarity at all with Mike Jones, VEISHEA, or Iowa... blind/neutral RfC response.) — Demong talk 02:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Every one of your links is to an opinion piece... thats POV... Eli lilly 01:23, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Everything stated was fact, there is no bias in this what so ever.Differcult 09:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Then why is the only citation an opinion piece? If its a fact then there should be a factual reference, not something from the opinion section of the school rag.Eli lilly 01:23, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Although I agree with your assessment that this incident is trivial and only localized to ISU, I feel that it's inclusion in the article wouldn't hurt. A tiny and simple footnote would suffice. As it is, the Mike Jones article is somewhere between a stub and a full-blown article (12,908 bytes). It's inclusion would pad up the article so that it would provide more information and reading. If more notable information were to be inserted later and the article were to exceed page size recommendations, then you could remove the said footnote from the page. As it is right now, the page has absolutely no sourced criticism of Mike Jones. It is currently POV'ed towards his credentials, discography, and other ventures. It is almost like somebody is literally watching the page, to make sure that any comments which are marginally negative, even if they are properly sourced and verifiable, are removed systematically. At this time, I don't think removing the disputed content will help much. I am still waiting for more second opinions for more third parties. The least I would do at the moment is to insert a NPOV-dispute tag into the section where the criticism is, or was. --Ted 01:50, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

It is said by many of mike's fans he can be reached at 386-365-8319 i have called this number and got his voicemail so yes i really think this is legit!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnlcdg (talkcontribs) 00:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

  • I looked at several of the Youtube videos mentioned above (the newspaper links don't work) and it seems like a normal low-budget show. Mike Jones is performing a medley of his work, probably to conserve time (and effort). Aside from him being late, there is absolutely nothing worth mentioning here. Eli lilly 15:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Mike Jones was paid to entertain. He botched his performance, and now a lot of people are angry. --Ted 21:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
      • What is the reference for this? The Youtube videos mentioned above don't show anything and the newspaper links don't work. It's like the only thing we have here is "some guy says". Eli lilly 21:47, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
        • this, this and this other, as provided by MentalPower (talk · contribs) above. These links work for me. --Ted 00:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
          • Your links did work for me, thanks. However, those are opinion pieces and aren't really suitable for any sort of encyclopedic reference. Jones really only has one "hit" track, "Back Then"... I think the whole problem here is with whoever booked him with the expectation of him carrying the show. The opinion pieces seem to be from people who are not fans of his music to start, the video shows a festival environment, probably with the typical piss-poor sound reinforcement, then you add his tardiness onto this and it's certain to be a non-memorable show. Aretha Franklin played a Jazz festival down here last year and it was so cold that she had to stop singing and she sat down and started crying on stage. Mildly interesting, maybe, but i'd bet that the incident isn't in her wikipedia article. Jones is still a fairly small-time artist, the oddity to me is all these students who expected some sort of massive crowd-moving show out of him. Do these people get out much? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eli lilly (talkcontribs)
            • In response to the above: From witnessing the crowd in person, many people were fans of him to begin with and those that weren't fans were excited to see him perform. The sound quality was not "piss-poor"...multiple bands played before Jones and sounded great (Story of the Year being one of them). Jones was the headliner of the festival, and though he is a "small-time artist", he was paid $21,000 to play, (very similar to what Story of the Year was paid) but Jones gave a much lower quality performance, in both length and the effort that he gave.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocketlocked (talkcontribs)
            • Actually, according the ISD(Iowa State Daily), Story of the Year was paid 27,500, and were the highest paid artists at the event, where Mike Jones was paid 21,000, and Chris Cagle and Saliva were each paid 20,000. I'm a big SOTY fan, and they had a great concert, but I think the best crowd was during Saliva. Although I agree with the wiki article, I think it should be edited if more people can agree that his performances are bad. Then it can be changed to something such as: "Performances: He is known for putting on bad concerts." Then it will be more neutral I think.—Preceding unsigned comment added by CycloneStudent (talkcontribs)

Acting[edit]

Mike Jones had no acting experience when he was in Prison Break playing C-Note's brother in-law. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weatherbed (talkcontribs) 20:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


External Links[edit]

Hey guys how about linking to Mike Jone's A.D.D. bio on MTV.com? Its exclusive content and Its a pretty cool piece on the band. Check it out and see if you want to add it to the external link page. The URL is http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1553753&vid=136443 --Chasingemy 20:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Please note that Chasingemy is an MTV employee. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Vandals[edit]

Why does this page get vandalized so much?

Michael Jones, better known by his stage name Mike Jones is an American sumo.

I didn't know mike jones was a sumo. Dumaka (talk) 15:29, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Latest News[edit]

The Houston Press did a long piece on Mike Jones this month (July 2009). It's mostly about his rise and fall, a little bit about his upcoming album. Might be worth going through and fleshing out the Wikipedia page with some of the verified information from the article. Link: http://www.houstonpress.com/2009-07-23/music/mike-jones-who


Mike Jones at one point had a skate team he planned to take to the x-games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.13.216 (talk) 03:02, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Phone Number[edit]

No mention of him putting his phone number out in his songs? This was unheard of by any celebrity to be that close to his / her fanbase that they would be willing to connect with them directly. Now celebrities have twitter, myspaces, facebooks, and many other ways to connect directly with their fans. As much as I'm not a fan of Mike Jones, he did start this trend and deserves credit.

Also, does anyone know the results of him giving his phone number out? (how many calls, variety? problems? etc.) Some mention about the response would be fantastic if anyone can add that in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.217.232.153 (talk) 05:39, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Best Friends[edit]

Mike Jones grew up with Stephen Posa in New York City. their favorite thing to do was throw rocks at trash cans...? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephenposa (talkcontribs) 05:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

High School[edit]

What high school did he go to If you search other sites, they give different answers. Also, was he really suspended for calling out his name? Sounds like a stupid joke! Too bad, more people are interested in making juvenile jokes than creating a real biographical article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.245.181 (talk) 00:13, 30 April 2011 (UTC)


Controversy[edit]

There should be a discussion of his feud with Chamillionaire while the two were at SwishaHouse together. TheHappiestCritic (talk) 01:16, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Also Known As[edit]

We can't forget that Mike Jones is also known as Dike Jones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.2.105.222 (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2012 (UTC)