Talk:Military band

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NBC?[edit]

From the article: "Regular British Army musicians are all members of the Corps of Army Music. As a secondary role they are trained to work in NBC 'Casualty Decontamination Areas'." - NBC is Nuke, Bio, Chemical? --Badger151 18:19, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I would assume so. Hmm. Hadn't noticed that before. BQZip01 talk 01:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008[edit]

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 18:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Bias[edit]

This article in its current form sems somewhat Amero-centric, British Bands contained winds for some time before WWI - Gustav Holst's suite for miltary band were wrtten in 1909 and 1911. David Underdown (talk) 09:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Havign done a quick bit of looking around, these may help redress the balance slightly History of the Corps of Army Music, History of the Royal School of Military Music, Information and reference for the Royal Marines Band Service, Royal Air Force music. David Underdown (talk) 09:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't see anywhere in this article where wind instruments were excluded in any way. Do you mean woodwinds? — BQZip01 — talk 17:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Woodwind, yes, sorry for not being clear. The article appears to suggest that they only appeared in military bands after WWI, whereas, the links I've given above suggest that they first appeared in Prussian (where strings were also used, even in marching bands), and then British bands during the 18th century. I didn't realise there was a difference in British and American usage over this, wind is often used as short for woodwind eg School of Wind, Brass and Percussion at the Royal Northern College of Music. David Underdown (talk) 18:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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Chinese military bands[edit]

Chinese military bands "both" in the mainland, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan. Both? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Percus (talkcontribs) 03:58, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup[edit]

I notice that an anonymous editor is making big changes to this article. I think they are a move in the right direction, but I wish the anon would provide some information on this page about what he is trying to do. It's not a good idea to make such large changes without explaining yourself.

The article is long, IMHO with far too much detail about instruments, etc., and it has almost no references. It's a pretty important article, and really should be gone over by an experienced editor with knowledge of the subject matter. Lou Sander (talk) 15:04, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lou Sander, I am the anonymous user that made the edits, just getting back into Wikipedia after a long time of just observing. My goal with that edits was simply to try to correct some of the rambling sentences and to create new sections of each of the countries/traditions to make the article easier to navigate.
My opinion is that this article should not list all of the various formations for each country, but simply summarize unique traits of that countries tradition. This article needs to do a better job of explaining how military bands have evolved within the overall wind and percussion band tradition. Telescopium1 (talk) 04:09, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
I agree 100%. IMHO, all that stuff about formations could be eliminated with little harm to the article. Whoever put it in there might be disappointed that all his work was erased, though. Maybe the formation stuff could be put into notes in the References section. BTW, I think your work has been good. I was just a little concerned about the lack of explanation. I didn't want anybody to revert it just because they didn't understand why it was done. Lou Sander (talk) 15:49, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the positive welcome back. I think there may be a way to generalize about the performance formation of a marching military band and save the space. In addition to this, I would probably argue that a portion of that material should be covered in the Military style bands section of Marching band. Then we could use this space to talk about the specific role of military music, different types of performance groups under the umbrella of modern military bands. My question would be this: is a military band defined as a military style marching band or as any wind and percussion band that is part of the military. I would argue for the latter definition. There appears to be a movement to make the article marching band a little less Amero-centric so perhaps a portion of the detail about military marching bands that current lives in this article could move. Improving the articles about wind and percussion bands is part of what's drawn me back to Wikipedia. Telescopium1 (talk) 17:02, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
A major problem here is a lack of sources. We need to find a good one on the general subject of military bands. The article's lead doesn't really summarize anything below it, and more importantly it is pretty incomplete. It talks about the original bands, but doesn't say anything definitive about what came later. I'd like to see a few clear paragraphs summarizing military bands and what they are all about. It doesn't seem like that should be so hard to do. I am a skilled editor with a general interest in this subject, but my own knowledge of bands is pretty limited, outside having served in the Navy, having heard a bunch of them and collected a bunch of their music, and having worked on related Wikipedia articles. Lou Sander (talk) 12:43, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

1911 Encyclopedia Britannica & other sources[edit]

These are mostly early 20th century sources.

Some source material can be found at http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Band ]

Another good source is http://archive.org/details/risedevelopmento00farmuoft

And another is http://www.worldbookofmilitarymusic.com/index.html

And another http://books.google.com/books?id=ssgwAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=military+bands+book&source=bl&ots=m_AJd8xnUL&sig=LxI9rHOGyiygGFnYXi32NniKvKM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QPcEUsv2DoqwygH7moGoCA&ved=0CGgQ6AEwBDgU#v=onepage&q=military%20bands%20book&f=false

Lou Sander (talk) 14:13, 9 August 2013 (UTC)