Talk:Military uniform

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Question[edit]

Is it true that Frederick the Great (king of Prussia) was the first to institute systematic uniforming of troops? (I'm not sure exactly what that means.) I think that Frederick set a single uniform for all his soldiers, regardless of unit, whereas previously, individual regiments might have had their own, since regiments were raised by individual noblemen. Something about this should go into the article, if anyone knows more than I do. I understand Frederick was also the first to institute modern mass precision drill. glasperlenspiel 04:12, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)

I would have thought the first to introduce standardised uniforms were actually the Romans. And didn't Cromwell's New Model Army have a single uniform? -- Necrothesp 13:52, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
In the Myth of the Machine by Lewis Mumford, I believe he does credit Frederick the Great with using the first standardized uniforms. He also says Sewing Machines were invented for this purpose. I'd really like to know more! Could someone with more information please visit my Talk page?Yeago 08:38, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

removed link because it took over my computer. All sorts of popup ads appeared and browser almost crashed.

Not a worldwide view?[edit]

Someone put up a non-worldwide view tag on the history section, probably because it emphasizes European uniform history. Does anyone know anything about more Eastern uniforms and their history (I'm thinking perhaps the feudal armies of Japan and Warring States China were maybe uniformed?)? --The Centipede 01:07, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are, indeed, Anglocentric aspects here, such as referring to the the Royal Navy of Great Britain simply as the "Royal Navy", as though there were no other Royal Navies on Earth.
Ernest Ruger (talk) 04:26, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The British navy is the only navy on Earth were the official name in English is 'Royal Navy'. The others may be called 'Royal Navy' in their own language, but not in English. This, I believe, is the English language Wikipedia.
Or does that make the whole encylopaedia 'Anglocentric' (sic). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.247.9 (talk) 18:36, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures![edit]

I suggest more pictures be spread through the article to illustrate the evolution of military uniforms. I tried searching through the Wikimedia Commons for appropriate pictures but feel myself inadequate to make a selection. -- Echnin 11:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Those puffy pants generals wear[edit]

What are those called? You know the ones I mean - Patton always wore them. --NEMT 19:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure you're not thinking of MC Hammer?137.138.46.155 07:19, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I always thought they were called "breeches", but I just looked it up and breeches (while often flaired at the top) are only calf-length, (they end at the knees). In our article on Patton, it says that he wore "riding pants", which again, seems to imply a type of knee-length pants that he clearly did not wear. 70.20.217.197 02:39, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The "Puffy pants" referred to are called "Jodhpurs" (pronounced "Joad-poor") They were originated among the Mughal, Maratha and Afghan horsemen of the 16th-19th centuries, and were adopted by the Army of British India, and also by the British hHome Army, in the latter Nineteenth century.----

Forgive me but here we see again the relentless Anglocetricism so common in Wikipedia's military articles. You don't actually think that Jodhpurs and Puttees were only adopted by British military personnel, do you? Ernest Ruger (talk) 04:41, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ernest Ruger, you wrote that Jodhpurs are pronounced "Joad-poor". That's not the case for all English speakers. The "Joad" part would be understandable in North American English which lacks the same short o sound that is in British English. British English speakers pronounce the "poor" part as pur, the same as the word purr. --Dreddmoto (talk) 21:49, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Related Links in need of expansion[edit]

The "related lists" on the "See Also" section is in desperate need of further expansion. It currently points to only WW2, British and Canadian uniform pages. The article also needs a larger "External Links" category. Wolfraem 02:13, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

I was wondering what the jacket on the Beatles Sgt Pepper album cover is called? Anyones help will be much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaneite (talk • contribs) 15:05, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Imperial Moff uniform[edit]

Did anybody noticed that the german uniform showed here is the same as the Moff in the Galactic Empire of Star Wars? Freedom Fighter 1988 (talk) 06:21, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

File:German officer ulanka.jpg
1918 German ulanka (uniform tunic)
Moff Jerjerrod

Yes, this is an obvious photoshop. That is s uniform from Star Wars. 69.107.249.161 (talk) 11:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weather standard[edit]

Country uniform quality at least depend on weather standards of the country in which it is used. RippleSax (talk) 15:26, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

3.2 Visibility or camouflage[edit]

Regarding that section, the photograph there only shows one kind of camouflage uniform and has a limited view of it. I suggest adding one or two more photographs there showing more than one kind of camouflage uniform at once. There are some photographs like that here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Military_camouflage_clothing --Dreddmoto (talk) 21:35, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Modern uniforms by country[edit]

The section titled Modern uniforms by country currently lacks a summary of uniforms worn by the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA). I suggest that this be added, along with a link if possible. Opinions about this from others, would be welcome. --Dreddmoto (talk) 18:19, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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British Indian Army[edit]

@PadFoot2008: I'd invite you to make your case here as opposed to trying to start an edit war (per WP:BRD, your edit has been contested, so discuss it). In saying all that, you've yet to present any real reason as to why we shouldn't use the term other than its a modern day anachronism, which again there is nothing in Wikipedia's Manual of Style that forbids the use of anarchronistic names (biggest example, see the Byzantine Empire, whose entire name is an anarchronism).

And while I would normally not be so picky about piping an accurate name for the link, I've already made the case very clear, that the "British" disambiguation is both necessary and helpful for readers, especially when the modern Indian Army is linked not even two words after the British Indian Army is linked. The reader needs to know what is the end target of the link they are clicking. Padfoot, I'd like to hear why you're insisting that we obfuscate the end target for the link. Piping British Indian Army as Indian Army would only confuse the reader as you now have two links right next to one another titled the same thing; a disambiguation is needed to show they go to different target articles. Leventio (talk) 14:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Military style" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

The redirect Military style has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 8 § Military style until a consensus is reached. 64.229.90.172 (talk) 03:30, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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