Talk:Ministry of the Means of Communication (Soviet Union)

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Even the redirect is wrong[edit]

Here is what's happened with this page. There was an article called People's Commissariat for Posts and Telegraphs. This is the name of the Russian Post Office after 1917 and till 1932, and it's similar to the departments for posts and telegraphs in some other countries. Suddenly, Trust Is All You Need renamed People's Commissariat for Posts and Telegraphs to Ministry of Railways (Soviet Union) and ruined the article content, by adding wrong claims, removing a considerable part of the article and even without referring to any reliable sources. So, according to Trust Is All You Need (and not to any reliable source), Ministry of Railways was originally established as the People's Commissariat for Post and Telegraph, with the latter being re-named the Ministry of Railways in 1946. This is a false claim, and I provided reliable references in the article People's Commissariat for Posts and Telegraphs showing that one cannot make a railway administration out of a post office. Moreover, the Ministry of Telecommunications of the Soviet Union was the actual succeeder of People's Commissariat for Posts and Telegraphs, while the real Ministry of Railways of the Soviet Union descends from the People's Commissariat of Railways mentioned in Council of People's Commissars (see for details Talk:People's Commissariat for Posts and Telegraphs). So, I insist that this redirect page must be deleted since there should be a separate article Ministry of Railways (Soviet Union), not a redirect, or, if you keep it as a redirect, it should lead to People's Commissariat of Railways. Hope for understanding this. --Michael Romanov (talk) 02:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Then nominate it for deletion at WP:RFD. I declined the speedy deletion because (1) you nominated it under a criterion only applicable to articles, (2) the criterion for redirects that was closest isn't applicable, since this title is over 2 years old, and (3) there's no general criterion for its deletion. Nyttend (talk) 02:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

going forward[edit]

seeing the prod nomination, I merged the very informative material you gave in the deletion reason with the extremely sketchy article. The material does not overlap with the material in the article Russian Railways. It might be possible to put all of the material in a history section there, and have redirects from all previous names; I do not know what is being done with other Russian administrative bodies, but this should follow the same pattern. However, I would strongly favor keeping the pre-soviet era, the Soviet body under whatever name, and the post-Soviet era separate. I'm not sure whether we would make successive articles for the different names in the Soviet period, but personally, I certainly would--there is no shortage of material--even in English. DGG ( talk ) 00:57, 9 January 2011 (UTC)