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Removed: The great spider Shelob spawned many smaller spiders, whom Sauron introduced into Mirkwood.. Source for this please? I do not deny they and she may be related, but I personally believe both Shelob and the Mirkwood spiders are descendants of Ungoliante's breed in Ered Gorgoroth. — Jor 16:48, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Found my own source. Re-introducing part of the phrase. — Jor 20:03, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)


Doesn't the Hobbit (and perhaps LOTR) mention woodmen living in the central portions of the forest? Presumably they're related to the Beornings. john k 18:40, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I just recently reread the Hobbit again and I recall no reference to men in Mirkwood. There are men down the river, but none actually in the forest if I recall correctly. TheALittley (talk) 04:37, 8 June 2012 (UTC)


Added refs & links of notability.Tttom1 19:38, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

History - I think it should be mentioned somewhere of the mingling of the people here, Sindar coming from the ruin of Doriath, and Oropher (Thranduil's father) being taken as their Lord. It should also be noted from "The Disaster of The Gladden fields" They left the ancient home at Amon Lanc across the river from their kin in Lorien. And also that Oropher led their army into battle with the Last alliance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:42, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I edited the page and the references are there as well. Is there any way to hide the references? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:53, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Quest for Lonely Mountain[edit]

Could someone either cite the reference justifying the claim that the "quest" in The Hobbit was to regain Erebor? I believe the quest was to be a burglary, *not* the removal of Smaug and reestablishment of the Dwarves there. This needs to be corrected if I am right. (talk) 06:24, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

You are confusing Bilbo's job with the storyline of the book. Bilbo was hired as a burglar, but that was just one role in the reclaiming of the lonely mountain. Doesn't really need a citation as it is simple plot detail (to most people who've read the book anyway). GimliDotNet (talk) 07:47, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. The quest was definitely to take back the mountain from Smaug, as per Thorin's description at the beginning of The Hobbit. TheALittley (talk) 04:41, 8 June 2012 (UTC)


Over the past few weeks I have moved part of the existing article to a new section (Geography) and have expanded this to include descriptions of the size, shape, flora and fauna of the forest. In regards to size I think it's helpful to include, in addition to bare statistics (miles / km), comparisons to places in the modern world, but these must be relevant (West Germany for the reasons cited, and Britain because it was where Tolkien lived). (talk) 00:30, 31 December 2013 (UTC)