Talk:Moab, Utah

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Genesis of the name Moab[edit]

After the article says "The city got its name from the Mormons who named the town from Genesis 19:37"The first born gave birth to a son and named him Moab. He is the father of the Moabites of today." Someone's put down "This is one of many Bible terms that they have stolen". This sentence is neither helpful nor polite to the Mormons. The first sentence already mentioned that the name is from the bible, and to say that someone's "stolen" it... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 16:57, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

The name "Moab" certainly came from the Bible, but was not acquired from the verse listed.-- (talk) 17:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Weird sentence[edit]

Moab farmers who had formerly traded with passing travelers changed to do business by rail.

"By rail" implies that they travelled around on trains. If they started selling their produce at train stations, it should say that instead. If they sold produce on the trains, it should say that. Unless they started farming on the trains, this sentence doesn't make much sense. Kafziel 12:57, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I added most of the history section, and the sentence you mention with the words "by rail". Feel free to revise. When I first started contributing to this page the history section was VERY inaccurate (note the above discussion paragraph as one example). So I rewrote the history section and at the time was researching railroads for another project. So railroads were on my mind. I now regret putting so much railroad content to the history section and am considering removing it myself. My intent was to state that soon after Moab was established some major changes were made in the U.S. trade routes. This changed Moab from being a strategic trade city to being a very remote place. I think I did that successfully but may also have left the impresion that Moab is a railroad city, which it is not. Railroads were just the medium of change of the day. I was also loosly paraphrasing a book called "Grand Memories" and the following website: Again feel free to clean up the words, I'll admit I'm not the best writer.

Davemeistermoab 20:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Ironically in comment to the phrase "stolen" early Moab settlers did not like the name Moab for their town. Moab in the bible was often referred to as a land of idol worshipers who followed after strange Gods. This did not bode well with the early religious settlers of both Baptist and Mormon faith and they petitioned to have it changed. Their petitions failed though and Moab continues with it's name today.
Other Sources for the history of Moab include:
  • Far Country(Out of Print) By Faun McConkie Tanner
  • The Moab Story: Bike Spokes to Cow Pokes by Tom McCourt
And for further reference and research you can visit [] for the local history Museum —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:48, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

External links to Businesses[edit]

Removed Link to Moab Adventure Center on grounds that it is not a link about Moab but being used as an advertisment to use their business. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Name of Thompson Springs / Thompson[edit]

Historical Sources refer to Thompson Springs as Thompson until 1985 when the name was changed. Either use of the name would be appropriate for this article —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:07, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Clarification/addition of content in History and Film and TV sections[edit]

  • I did not delete any previous content; overall the History section is well-written, a big improvement on the state of the article a few years ago. Almost all changes, in both sections, are minor grammatical and punctuation revisions.
  • Clarification and expansion of discussion of current "second-home" issues: The previous content was ambiguous as written, and would likely be particularly confusing to those not residing in Moab or familiar with the issues involved. I added some material for clarification of why the issue is "controversial," as previously it had been stated but not explained. Citations were added as well as internal Wiki links to some of the topics mentioned (ex: Aspen, Colorado).
  • Addition of internal Wiki links in the section discussing current tourism (ex: rock climbers, BASE jumpers, four-wheelers).
  • I also added a sentence regarding the seasonal increase in population due to outdoor recreation, a significant recent development in Moab's history that deserves inclusion in this section.
  • As mentioned above, most changes are minor and are designed to improve readability and flow in some areas.

Red Rocks81 (talk) 07:55, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree these changes were an improvement. Thanks, working on this article has been on my "get around to it" list for some time. The one item that has not been addressed is the Media section of the article. It would not be a complete article about Moab if it didn't include a section on the movie industry, however this section the way it is now is cluttered, mostly unreferenced, and prone to immature additions. (For example, while I agree that certain parts of the Road Runner and Coyote shorts do look like Moab, AFAIK there is absolutely no evidence that Moab was an inspiration for the scenery. In fact, as roadrunners are more an icon of New Mexico, and are very rarely found this far north, it's dubious).Dave (talk) 15:51, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Infobox pic[edit]

Would anyone mind if I changed the infobox pic to the picture of Moab's main street? While the arch picture is beautiful, and the arches are strongly associated with Moab, it's not actually of Moab so feels rather unencyclopedic. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 18:36, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree completely. Be bold. Ntsimp (talk) 19:25, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Done. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 18:41, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
I have mixed feelings on this (my apologies I meant to respond last night but got busy). I agree that the lead photo should be of the city itself, not of a landmark. I also agree that of the pics available on commons there aren't many that are appropriately tagged, few that are categorized Moab actually feature the city. Most are of landmarks near the city. However, the large lamppost at the left of the lead photo serves as a visual distraction from the city street and tends to dominate the image. Ideally I'd like to see an image like this File:MAIN STREET OF MOAB. TRAFFIC IS BEGINNING TO BRING POLLUTION PROBLEMS TO A REGION LONG NOTED FOR THE CRYSTAL CLARITY... - NARA - 545618.tif without the blue truck that is similarly a visually dominant distraction. Scanning commons, IMO, these are the most visually appealing pic that shows (at least one building) of the city itself File:Star Hall Moab Utah.jpeg File:Taylor House Moab Utah.jpeg Dave (talk) 19:19, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
I agree that the existing image isn't perfect, and many of those that you proposed have other issues (blue truck, others too narrow in scope). Since the existing pic is CC-By-SA licensed, we could just crop it ourselves. However, I'm going to be in the area in a few weeks; I will probably be able to produce a reasonable replacement. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 19:41, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Following up on this: I was unable to get a decent shot of downtown due to the dense traffic at all times of day. I did get one of the nearby potash evaporation ponds, but that doesn't count. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 16:33, 13 June 2013 (UTC)