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Doesn't this sound like it´s written as an advertisement? Maybe a banner should be added at the top? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.7.83.102 (talk) 14:46, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. Just because it speaks about the features of the subject matter doesn't mean it is an advertisement. It also explains the downfalls of MobileMe, and is consistantly objective, as it should be. Do you have any examples? Ericvicenti (talk) 23:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

This does read like an ad. The biggest giveaway is that they don't give the prices for each plan. Why wouldn't you include prices? Oh ya, because $100 is a rip off and if people see that it's such a rip off it will discourage people form going to their site. Apple shills infesting wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.207.168.135 (talk) 15:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree that this does read like an advert, why does it not mention any pricing at all? Also the criticism is split up through the article and should probably be in one section at the end. 60.241.63.190 (talk) 10:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually it's WP:NOPRICES that prevents us from putting prices. It doesn't read like an advertisement. It reads like a he said she said. It needs to be rewritten and merged with .Mac. I intend to do this soon. NightKhaos (talk) 18:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Malware Hyperventilation[edit]

There is questionable validity in criticizing Apple bundling its Windows software together (installing MobileMe's user interface as part of iTunes because it uses the same sync that iTunes has always used), but suggesting this is somehow "malware" because it looks like Real bundling some unrelated spyware or something is just absurd. The only difference between iTunes 7 and the update that provided support for MobileMe was that it installs a way to configure sync settings in the Windows Control Panel (mirroring the UI of Mac OS X and conforming to Windows standards as well). iTunes for Windows has long included PIM sync with Outlook. There is nothing even anti-competitive about this bundling. Completely ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.52.37 (talk) 21:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Also why the bit about exchange server? Clearly the features state that outlook is compatible with mobileme and says nothing about exchange server having to be compatible.they are two distinct and different systems and apple never claimed that exchange server is compatible anyway! Clearly written by a windows fanboy, ESP the bit about apple saying it's not a bug. Simply ridiculous. - Message by 212.159.12.26
Please sign your messages! NightKhaos (talk) 09:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

iDisk File sharing[edit]

Well apparently making a change makes you a vandal, so before I go ahead and edit this article to be correct, I'll bring it up to others. iDisk file sharing is available. iDisk has a folder called "Public" that is used for file sharing. This folder can be accessed by anyone, and has no limit. To access it, one must simply go to idisk.me.com/username-Public. Now I'll allow a few hours for everyone to recognize that I am not a vandal.

Rule number one of talk, SIGN your messages. Rule number one of any edit, verifiy them with references. And finally, if someone is removing your edits, take the agruement to talk. (As you have done, so I congratulate you on that.) NightKhaos (talk) 14:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Added. NightKhaos (talk) 14:35, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I added a feature that wasn't mentioned in the category, that the iDisk/public folder can be protected by a password, if the owner doesn't want to make it really public. yhu0214(talk) 00:29, 10 September 2008

iWeb publishing[edit]

I added the way to publish a website on Mobileme without iWeb.yhu0214(talk) 00:47, 10 September 2008

Web applications[edit]

I added "Gallery" to the application list.yhu0214(talk) 00:55, 10 September 2008

Ugly links[edit]

KellyCook, I understand where your coming from, but having a link in a page like that is hardly a clean layout. Nor do I see how this related to WP:MOS, please read the section on links more carefully. Note the following:

Generally, URLs are ugly and uninformative; it is better for a meaningful title to be displayed rather than the URL itself. For example, "European Space Agency website" is much more reader-friendly than "http://www.esa.int/export/esaCP/index.html". There may be exceptions where the URL is well known or is the company name. In this case, putting both the url and a valid title will be more informative: for example, "European Space Agency website, www.esa.int".

I do not want to get into a edit war about something so trival. So let me outline the my reasoning behind the change:

The article section is about the downtime affecting users, and what happened to said users, not the link to which the people were sent too. For this reason I believe that we do not need to place to full link. I will undo your edit, but if you disagree with my reasoning, please outline why here. NightKhaos (talk) 21:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

The downtime was specifically related to the urls and its redirects going offline. Especially the mac.com one, which doesn't exist anymore. However, the point is conceded that the autowiki linking was not good (and a bot would have come along and replaced them anyhow), so I wrapped them in nowikis. -- KelleyCook (talk) 01:50, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
That looks a lot better. NightKhaos (talk) 07:30, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Contacts[edit]

I disagree. Change the wording if you will (I will concede there is room for improvement in the phrasing of the text), but thousands of posters on discussion boards and a multitude of reports on the incompetence of MobileMe in dealing with Contacts exists - that is a fact that cannot be disputed. Anything else would be a denial of reality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.250.227.19 (talk) 21:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

The revision had nothing to do with denying reality. The revert was to do with the fact the source was not reputable. Find a reputable source and it will remain in page. NightKhaos (talk) 23:31, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Merge with .Mac[edit]

I believe it is time to merge this page with .Mac NightKhaos (talk) 23:32, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I did it --Samvscat (talk) 06:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Reason for removing edit from summary of anon user[edit]

See User talk:128.61.116.215 for more justification. NightKhaos (talk) 14:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Should this article link to cloud computing?[edit]

Isn't it an example of it? Jason McHuff (talk) 04:46, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

No. Cloud Computing implies virtual or real servers that can run the customer's own applications, or a platform that sells varying platforms or softwares as a service to run web applications. MobileMe provides neither. The catchphrase '...in the cloud' that is used to describe the MobileMe platform instead is a play on the entire internet being represented as a cloud (I would assume.)

Kylar (talk) 04:39, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

QUESTION: iPod Touch[edit]

Does this service allow iPod Touch users to access the internet without a WiFi access point? The description seems to imply this is an internet provider, is this just a sync program or is there more to it? The benefits of using this with an iPod Touch are not stated in the article and the service's learn more page describes nothing about what it is, just what you can do. bokthaku (talk) 11:27, 15 March 2009

HTML Non Breaking Space in this article[edit]

Note that there are some HTML Non Breaking Spaces in this article (I don't know how to show this literally): & nbsp; I am not sure what to do with them. Should they be replaced by normal space? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mortense (talkcontribs) 19:15, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Remember to sign your message, and the reason there are Non-Breaking Space is because they should not break. Please see Non-breaking space article for more information. Basicly it makes sure OS X says on the same line, otherwise in certein circumstances it would become OS <new line> X which would not look right. NightKhaos (talk) 09:59, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Pricing[edit]

Doesn't the use of pricing in the article contradict the WP:NOPRICES policy, as well as the fact that the US price comparison is misleading (doesn't cite exchange rates source, time, doesn't disclaim tax differences, etc)? Akunokuroneko (talk) 06:51, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Merge with iCloud[edit]

I would think this should be merged with the iCloud article. TXAggie (talk) 18:26, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I disagree. MobileMe and iCloud are two different products and will, in fact, run concurrently. Current users of MobileMe have a full year to switch, while iCloud launches in just a few months. Lexlex (talk) 14:54, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Product Failure Section/Public Perception[edit]

I would love to know why this product is considered a failure. At a recent Apple event Steve Jobs said, when introducing iCloud, something to the effect of "..why should I believe them? They're the same people who brought me MobileMe!" - which was met with peels of knowing laughter. From that inference, I get the impression that MobileMe was a dud. I also remember seeing something online about Jobs berating the team responsible for creating the service.

Why was it a dud? What happened? Why did it fail? Anyone? Can we create a section on this? Lexlex (talk) 14:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Southern Hemisphere Spring[edit]

I didn't want to change it unilaterally but this strikes me as off. "At the WWDC 2011, on June 6, Apple announced it will launch iCloud sometime during the Spring (Southern Hemisphere) of 2011, which will replace MobileMe for new users." Generally when people talk about or write about spring they're talking Northern Hemisphere and as far as I've seen that carries over to Wikipedia so I think we should change the designation to fall which is correct for the Northern Hemisphere. Call me Ethnocentric if you want but it may have something to do with the fact that most predominately English speaking countries are in the Northern Hemisphere except for Australia. Cat-five - talk 08:00, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Create new article?[edit]

iCloud is the next iteration of Apple's online tools, intended to replace MobileMe. MobileMe replaced .Mac which replaced iTools. Why should there be two separate articles about the same general concept? Suggest creating a new article about Apple Online Productivity Tools (or some such), and fold the iCloud and MobileMe articles into it. 24.214.238.86 (talk) 01:27, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Possible redirect?[edit]

I think this article should be a redirect to iCloud. Why? Because MobileMe has officially been superseded by iCloud, and there's no need for those two products to have separate articles. Also, it's just the same for iTools and .Mac: iTools has been superseded by .Mac, .Mac has been superseded by MobileMe, and MobileMe has been superseded by iCloud. Interlude65 (talk) 14:03, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

No. The iCloud service is significantly different to the what precedes it in both subtle and not-so-subtle ways. For the record the other pre-MobileMe services had very bad WP pages, hence why they ended-up here in the first place. Jimthing (talk) 11:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Redirect complete[edit]

Just to let you guys know, I redirected the article to iCloud because of the very reason listed in the section above. Interlude65 (talk) 15:33, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Because the name is still out there and it is regularly referred to as an Apple failure which iCloud was supposed to fix, I think this should be kept and written to show the differences between the two. Simply blanking the page and redirecting to iCloud makes as much sense as blanking and re-directing the Apple II to Macintosh. It doesn't. Lexlex (talk) 15:51, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Agree with Lexlex. Let's leave it for now ... if a lot of interest in seen in moving it after a year or something, then maybe this could be reevaluated. Just for record, I also left a message on Interlude65's talk page regarding this. Theopolisme TALK 16:08, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
NO no no. We certainly don't just "leave it for now". If something has existed then it gets it's own page on WP accordingly, period. So no we don't see what happens, but leave the thing exactly where it is! Jeez there are some uneducated editors: go read the guidelines before spouting ill-informed suggestions around. Jimthing (talk) 10:57, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Can we please just keep this article the way it is?[edit]

Even though MobileMe is discontinued, I think that this page should still exists since some people might still want to know about MobileMe. If this would be OK, then please do not redirect to iCloud or blank and put "MobileMe is discontinued."

Thank you, –– Anonymouse321 (talkcontribs) 04:29, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Blanking the article and putting "MobileMe is discontinued." is pure vandalism. If you see someone doing that, please undo it. --Webclient101 (talk) 04:37, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I agree, and it has been blanked 3 times in the last 2 days. I will keep this page on my watchlist for sure. –– Anonymouse321 (talkcontribs) 04:46, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Agree three. Unless people are ADDING something, just leave it alone. I've just had to re-copy/edit it for the umpteenth time, re-adding wrongly removed info done over the last 50 or so edits, as some users seem to think either 'it's irrelevant to me' or 'it's old info', 'so I'll remove it', not realising it's relevant for historical reasons! Jimthing (talk) 22:58, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
I disagree. Prices - why are these relevant when we have a policy like WP:NOPRICES. It is sufficient to say that the service was charged for and not list every price in every market. URLs - this is excessive detail. Wikipedia is not a directory, it is not an indiscriminate collection of info, it is not a how-to guide. How does this list add any value or understanding of the service? --Biker Biker (talk) 23:23, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Access points are of interest to people, as it's interesting as to how access was/is provided, via a mixture of subdirectory (for private) and subdomain (for public) access, in comparison to how other sites handle(d) this. For example, as a comparison, I note the newer iCloud has NO public access at all currently. These types of thing are noteworthy to those seeking to understand how URLs can/cannot be used to access account functionalities. Jimthing (talk) 03:45, 15 December 2012 (UTC)