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Fdavis99 17:49, 28 July 2007 (UTC) Disscuss renaming "Microbrowser" to "Mobile browser"
- Support if mobile browser really is the more common term (I've never heard of "microbrowser" but I have heard of a "mobile browser") then it should be renamed. This article seems like it's perpetuating the name by virtue of existing, it is the top result for Microbrowser on Google. Unless someone objects I'm going to move the page soon. -- Gudeldar 03:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- Just a note about the evolution of the terms
I was involved in writing browsers for phones in the very early days. Microbrowser is a historical term and was what we used to call browsers on phones back in the 90s and into the early 00s. They were designed when such platforms had extremely limited resources (8MHz CPU and <128KB RAM was not uncommon) and could not hope to run the same code which desktop browsers were using. Almost all of the old microbrowser platforms would have been built with proprietary engines.
IMO the 'Mobile Browser' we have now is a different thing. Today's mobile browser is different from a desktop browser only in the UI and the user agent strings. Otherwise, they almost all support the same set of W3C specs and features. Mobile hardware is now sufficiently advanced that we largely run the same code on them that we do on desktop systems. Certainly this is the case for Android, iOS, Palm, BB & Symbian. In that environment, mobile browsing as a separate topic to web browsing is becoming a pointless distinction (apart for historical information) and should probably eventually be combined with the general article about web browsing. Mobile browsers are anyway largely consolidating around the same engines that desktop browsers are using, excepting Opera Mini and arguably the use of compressing web proxies for browsers such as the new Amazon Fire browser. Perhaps compressing web proxies used for bandwidth and CPU reduction on the client end ought to be discussed along with other proxy technology.
Since a lot of the pioneering companies no longer exist and those that do no longer support or sell their old system, it's very hard to dig up information on them nowadays and we ought to retain some of the history captured here during the times when such companies did exist.
It would be nice to have a better structured article with 'history of browsing on mobile devices' clearly separate from what is effectively 'current state of browsing on mobile devices' which is not so different from 'current state of browsing'.
FOSS and NPOV
In the browser table, why does FOSS=yes mean green (connotation: good/safe) and FOSS=no mean red (connotation: bad, warning) ?
Personally I prefer FOSS... BUT, that is not objective - it is an opinion. In the interests of NPOV this colour-scheme should be removed.
"First true microbrowser"
What does "true" mean here? The article says that NetHopper was the first microbrowser, but in reality it was PocketWeb (then called NewtonWWW), also for the Newton platform. HorvatM 17:17, 7 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by HorvatM (talk • contribs)
- The NetHopper may be the first mobile browser available as a product, but it is not the first browser. Perhaps that is what is meant with "true"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawooga (talk • contribs) 14:00, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
While browser applications might be closed source, many browser engines (what really matter) are not which makes the license column very confusing. BlackBerry's old engine is closed source, its new one is open source is a good example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 16:44, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
- The list of browsers is a list of browser applications, and each field therefore relates to the applications and not to the engine (which is another field, and therefore redundant). I'm not sure why the average reader, who is a user and not a developer, would consider the engine license to be more important than the application license. Ham Pastrami (talk) 03:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I understand many Web pages, including articles in Wikipedia, have a "Mobile" version especially designed for the small screen and slow access of a mobile phone and presented by default after automatically identifying the browser as mobile. Where is the Wikipedia article about that? Jim.henderson (talk) 12:56, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- Why do we need an extra article about that? It should be explained in here why Wikipedia and other sites are doing this... mabdul 13:51, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Additional User Installable Browser Suggestions
You should consider including Puffin in the list of user installable browsers. It runs on IOS and Android and it is seriously FAST at rendering - even rendering big Flash files on older smart phones. You can find them here - http://www.puffinbrowser.com/ if you need more info. I think they're in rev 2.0 right now but until I find out something horrible about it, its the best mobile browser I've used. It even lets my kool-aid drinking Apple brethren commit the heresy of playing Flash.