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[edit] Eastern bloc map

Could anyone explain me what was the reason to include the map of Eastern Bloc (where post WWII border are shown) into the article that deals with pre 1941 events?--Paul Siebert (talk) 15:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Assuming this is a serious question, it's the aftermath of what happened after the Soviet Union retook the countries ceded to it in the pact following the German invasion breaking the Pact. Most of the countries ceded to it under the Pact became Republics. At it states in its title, it reflects the changes from 1938 to 1948, from before the Pact to after the defeat of Germany, which had broken the Pact.

[edit] article to broad for the title

The principle purpose of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact Page is to describe and analyze the Pact and its impact on geo-political configurations that deal with subsequent military strategy. All else is extraneous and needs and needs to be edited out. This article goes far too long through too much lead-up, shifting it from its main purpose to an extended and -- for its purpose -- irrelevant piece of "nazi-bashing" and "stalinism bashing". The lead-up should not deal with "sidebars" such as the Spanish civil war and other the alleged atrocities. These should be put into a separate article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.56.235.32 (talk) 02:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

In the photograph at the top of the article, four appear whose names are not given. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.37.42 (talk) 12:40, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

One might be a translator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.37.42 (talk) 13:03, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] WWII overlap

This era is now under discussion at Talk:World War II, where added input is most welcome. Thanks, -Chumchum7 (talk) 20:55, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] War Diaries, 1939-1945, of Field Marshall Lord Alanbrooke

The following may be of interest:

War Diaries, 1939-1945, of Field Marshall Lord Alanbrooke, Chief of the British Imperial General Staff during WWII.

Alanbrooke flew to Moscow with Churchill in August 1942 via Gibraltar, North Africa and Iran in a cortege of four Liberators to discuss the conduct of the war with the Russians. His diary entry for 16 August 1942 states:

"... they [Stalin and Churchill] became on friendly terms and began to ask why they had done various things in the past. Winston asked Stalin how it was that he double-crossed us at the beginning of the war when our mission was in Moscow apparently making good progress when suddenly he swung right over to sign an agreement with Ribbentrip? Stalin replied that he thought England must be bluffing, he knew we had only two divisions we could mobilise at once, and he thought we must know how bad the French Army was and how little reliance could be placed on it. He could not imagine we should enter the war with such weakness. On the other hand, he said he knew Germany was certain ultimately to attack Russian. He was not ready to withstand that attack; by attacking Poland with Germany he could make more ground, ground was equal to time, and he would consequently have a longer period of time to get ready. I should think that this was probably a fairly true statement of the reasons that led to his decision."

    ←   ZScarpia   15:13, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

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