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I think brazilian monarchs descendents still use the title "Príncipe(prince) of Brazil", even tho nobody considers them princes. (talk) 18:29, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

31. European Principalities[edit]

It is stated that there currently are two principalities in Europe, presumably Monaco and Lichtenstein. There is also. of course, Wales, which as part of the UK is a special case. In German there is a distinction between a ruling prince (Fürst) and another royal with the princely title (Prinz), and, in spite of the territorial connexion, the Prince of Wales is regarded as the latter (Prinz von Wales). Shulgi (talk) 01:04, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

As far as I know that is not exactly the case. Prince of Wales was adopted at an uncertain date, probably in the 16th century, and spuriously, and so really doesn't mean Prince of Wales because it was not inherited or even gained by conquest from the ancient Welsh royal family. Wales was conquered but the style was not adopted then. The English and Scots really did things their own way and their titles sometimes don't mean what one would expect. Another peculiar one is Lord of the Isles, deriving from the Norse-Gaelic title of 1st millennium origin Innse Gall or King of the Isles. Because Lord is translated into the Gaelic Tiarna or Flaith, not , no king of Scotland or England has ever been King of the Isles, the traditional title. This was last held by the grandfather or great-grandfather of the downgraded Lord (Tiarna) of the Isles who lost his inheritance to the Scottish Crown. Probably I should point all this out in that article for the benefit of humanity but I am too lazy and also don't want to start a fight. DinDraithou (talk) 02:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

King, Kingdom[edit]

King and Kingdom direct here, shouldn't they have their own article? All other monarchical titles have their own article. (talk) 07:26, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Svein, King of Norway[edit]

See Talk:Svein, King of Norway#Post move discussion. There is arguement about this man status as King. The arguement is also about what defines a king?--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 05:38, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Monarch, Defined[edit]

Define Monarch; A Monarch (Mon-Arch) is a human-being (mon of Mon-Arch) who has an area of land which the monarch arches (Arch of Mon-Arch) over; The land area is a majesty. The Majesty belongs to the Monarch. The Monarch was chosen as a KING/Queen due to their proven achievements to build and provide essential accommodations for humanity while preserving nature and the entities outside of humanity, such as wild life. EXAMPLE: The King of Egypt built pryamids to archive spiritual information showing the need to preserve existence, while finding ways to build and accommdate the people with the NILE (canal) so that people had water. Lines of KINGS and/or Queens were set-out from the caucacian region of the globe, to establish ways of improving-upon existence (to include the defense and maintenance thereof) while forming constituted and civil ways of life. Each Monarch established a separate Majesty, unique-and-thus-different from far east influences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:27, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Uh oh... FactStraight (talk) 21:37, 21 January 2014 (UTC)