Talk:Monosodium glutamate

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Symptoms[edit]

Why is there not a clear list of symptoms that sensitive people experience, like what NIH list?

[nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001126 http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001126.htm]

Alrich44 (talk) 18:25, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

As someone who has a family member with allergy to MSG, I am really offended by the use of the phrase "urban myth". The migraines and nausea leave people with this sensitivity incapacitated, hiding in dark rooms for days. It's insulting to use the phrase 'urban myth', any more than you would refer to a gluten allergy that way. Just because you don't have one doesn't mean it doesn't exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.56.221.44 (talk) 14:57, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Why do you think it is the MSG? And why do you say 'allergy'? --sciencewatcher (talk) 16:17, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Responding to above: 40+ years of logging EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE TRIGGER and countless doctors over the years. It's not actually a mystery. It's a sure bet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluemoonsoon (talkcontribs) 01:24, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Please read WP:MEDRS. Dbrodbeck (talk) 03:14, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Also (in response to Bluemonsoon) try actually reading the science. I think further discussion is pointless. --sciencewatcher (talk) 04:12, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Copy edit and NPOV[edit]

I've added copy edit to this page for NPOV. Having about ten citation from manufacturers, suppliers, or those associated with them to reinforce key statements is not a good sign. Considering how much corporation influence governments and controversy around this product, I consider it extra difficult/challenging to find reliable sources. I've also invited four previous editors on this page to review my edits. Alrich44 (talk) 15:10, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Are these articles published in peer reviewed journals? If so I don't actually see a problem. Dbrodbeck (talk) 15:17, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

There are clear POV problems in this article that industry shills are maintaining. MSG is a known trigger for those who suffer from migraine headaches, and when I put that in, it gets edited out. I am using government and other highly respected, independent sources. Who is it that doesn't want that known? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluemoonsoon (talkcontribs) 01:21, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

I see you have never edited this article, or are you admitting that you use sockpuppets? Talking about 'industry shills' makes you sound like a nutbar. If you want to seriously discuss research, please post it rather than discussing ridiculous conspiracy theories. --sciencewatcher (talk) 02:05, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

I am learning about how to sign my name. But that does not change the merit of what I am saying. This article has serious POV problems, going to far as to claim: It has been suggested that a fear of MSG may reflect anti-Asian racism, with MSG being seen as an 'Oriental'... What on Earth is this? Slinging charges of racism to protect a product's image? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluemoonsoon (talkcontribs) 02:21, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

My comment has nothing to do with you signing your name. You said you had made changes to this article, but you haven't. You have only made a few edits to this talk page.
The racism comment seems well referenced. There isn't any actual evidence that MSG is bad...have a look at the studies in this article. You said you had other research...please post it! --sciencewatcher (talk) 02:42, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Actually, I have posted it. You undid what I wrote. On October 9th. Three sources, showing how MSG is commonly discussed in mainstream media as triggering migraines, including the New York Times and NPR. So you find them not appropriate but a Buzzfeed article suggesting that migraine suffers are really just racist is? Right. Whether I call you a shill or not doesn't change the fact that you have been working hard to maintain this article's bias. Bluemoonsoon (talk) 03:13, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I see you added it using your ip address rather than your username. The issue is that any medical statements must adhere to WP:MEDRS. MEDRS doesn't apply to non-medical statements, such as the racism issue. All the research shows that MSG doesn't cause health issues. That isn't bias - it is what is known as "following wikipedia policies". You seem to be inserting bias by trying to push unreliable science into the article. Why are you doing that? Please post a single peer-reviewed, double-blind study that shows that MSG causes headaches or migraines. --sciencewatcher (talk) 04:08, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Broken code[edit]

In the infobox, the "Jmol-3D images" is broken for me. It shows up as {{#if:Na+.O=C(O-)[C@@H](N)CCC(=O)O|Image 1. This does not appear to be due to my extensions or browser. --SnorlaxMonster 06:28, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I got this on Firefox, but not IE or Chrome. Alrich44 (talk) 01:29, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
This has now been fixed. Thanks! --SnorlaxMonster 12:20, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Addiction[edit]

I understand MSG is addictive. Why not add that info?

Because you understand incorrectly. MSG is not addictive.