Talk:Mother's Little Helper

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
WikiProject The Rolling Stones (Rated Stub-class, High-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject The Rolling Stones, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of The Rolling Stones on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Stub-Class article Stub  This article has been rated as Stub-Class on the project's quality scale.
 High  This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Songs (Rated Stub-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Songs, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of songs on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Stub-Class article Stub  This article has been rated as Stub-Class on the quality scale.
 

The article for the album Aftermath claims that Mother's Little Helper uses a sitar, whereas this articl contradicts that by saying it is often mistaken for a sitar, a correction must be made, but I don't know the answer. Although it does sound more like a sitar to me.

Likely Valium--

Valium was released in 1963 and by 1969 was the largest selling pharmaceutical in the USA (see valium wikipedia entry). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.230.3.53 (talk) 15:33, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Not Valium[edit]

Valium was too new at this time. Nembutal was easy to overdose and yellow. Exactly as described in the song. The properties of valium are different from that which is written about. Stop changing it.J. M. (talk) 20:55, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Please refrain from telling editors what they should do. Wikipedia encourages editors to be bold in their edits. Do you have any verifiable sources to support your claims? Lame Name (talk) 02:34, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


==Misc. Discussion.

Well, I have heard both album and single version and I am sure that album version has sitar in it, but single version a guitar with harmonizer/octaver or some kind of effect pedal.

I am curious about the assertion that a "mother's little helper" was Nembutal. I always thought it referred to dexedrine, which were available as yellow tablets in the sixties. They were widely prescribed as a slimming aid and mood lifter, before the dangers were fully appreciated. Augusta2 01:30, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, 5 mg. Valium (benzodiazepine) tablets were a relatively new drug, available on the National Health Service at the time. They are yellow, and the song refers to "little yellow pills' and "doctor please, some more of these". Pustelnik (talk) 22:46, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Nembutal was the common in England at the time this song was written. Valium was too new, and Yellow Submarine is supposed to have been about Nembutals. Furthermore, Nick Mason stated that Syd Barrett consumed them, and furthermore, its hard to OD from a Benzo especially compared to a barbituate. Furthermore, its also hard to overdose from Dexedrine. And Dexedrine doesn't calm most people down. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.26.147 (talk) 01:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

On the other hand Nembutal is a sleeping capsule, it wouldn't be commonly used in the daytime. I was a teenager at the time and we were all certain that Dexedrine was the drug referred to. Many of our mothers were prescribed these as a pick-me-up, doctors handed them out hand over fist back then. aldiboronti (talk) 19:57, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Lady Jane.jpg[edit]

The image Image:Lady Jane.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check

  • That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
  • That this article is linked to from the image description page.

This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --07:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Cover versions[edit]

Am looking for a cover version by a lady once heard on the radio. Don't know who she was. Anybody can add other artists to the cover versions chapter? 89.28.224.2 (talk) 22:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

The phrase[edit]

I'm curious as to where the phrase came from. Was this song the first example of the phrase "mother's little helper", or was it derived from e.g. a television advert, or newspaper headline? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 19:27, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

possible explanation for title[edit]

the origin of the line "mother's little helper" might possibly go back a lot further, back to the early 19th century. 

Opium tincture also known as "laudanum", sold under brand names like "Godfrey's Cordial" (http://www.archive.org/stream/fourperiodsofpub00kaysrich#page/168/mode/2up) or "Dalby's Carminative" was apparently nicknamed "mother's little friend" or "mother's little comforter" (Davis, Comrade or Brother,2009:55) It was used to dope anyone who could not fall asleep because of severe hunger or the like. Lots of infants died of overdoses. I doubt that the grown-ups abstained from laudanum. After all, there were more than 30.000lb of opium imported to the UK and checked for consumption in the year 1835. ( http://books.google.com/books?id=ns5PAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA455&lpg=RA1-PA455&dq=laudanum+price+1830&source=bl&ots=IvbiE9lu99&sig=iqW61kL9BZQqt6KnQ-y-tBqfU8w&hl=en&ei=YHyfTJfjLI7Mswai0ZnmDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAw#v=snippet&q=laudanum&f=false)

With about 12 million Brits as possible consumers, you end up with at least 1gramm of opium/head/year. And 2 ounces of laudanum contained only 1 grain (64mg) of opium. You could comfort quite a number of mothers with that opium...

I think the Rolling Stones were quite aware of their nation's history. Definetly in those areas were history and drugs collided. I hope that all this will help you a bit

Cheers

Actioncoordinator —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.161.119.240 (talk) 17:48, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

In other media[edit]

This section seem trivial and doesn't, to me, enhance the understanding of the song's cultural importance. Any objections to deleting this section with its "Simpsons" episode and craft beer? --Cantabwarrior 00:45, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Having waited several weeks and heard no objection, I've made the deletion. --Cantabwarrior 16:00, 19 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cantabwarrior (talkcontribs)