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Any opposition to moving ginger from the chemical treatment portion of this article to the natural treatment section? Also, I've heard that ylang-ylang essential oil is an active ingredient in one of the over-the-counter medications. Does anyone have experience with using ylang-ylang essential oil to relieve motion sickness? If so, could you share specifics as to application technique and results? Desertelephant (talk) 18:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but why sickness?
I can understand that your brain receives conflicting signals from your eyes and vestibular system causing confusion to the brain, but why should the outcome of this be nausea? It doesn't seem to make much sense! --CharlesC 22:56, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
- Because the brain thinks one is hallucinating and that this is caused intoxication. Nausea is induced because it leads to vomiting an thus clearance of some of the hallucinogenic toxin. 188.8.131.52 21:51, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
- These (along with tongue spray, some kind of hand shock therapy, ginger pills, placebo and a commercial product) were tested on a recent episode of MythBusters, the ginger pills seemed to work best, followed by the commercial product. The placebo also worked on one of the two test subjects. The rest of the products, including the wristbands, did not seem to have much effect. --GalFisk 13:40, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
- The article itself quotes the ginger pills as "citation needed". Can we use the MythBuster episode as a 'field test' in the Treatment section? Jappalang 03:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
What about an explanation for how someone can experience motion sickness without having the endolymph (the fluid found in the semicircular canals of the inner ears) stirred up? Like when you watch a movie from the front row.
In the Canadian 'Digital Living' journal HUB magazine's (March, 2006), Total Gamer column, writer Erin Bell refers to the American Academy of Pediatrics' explanation that motion sickness is caused by confusion between a range of sensors throughout the body. The liquid in the inner ear, actually provides a lot of information about depth and height as we look up and down; the eyes and neck help keep us oriented as we move around our bodies and our heads; and "nerves in the ankles, knees and other joints register information about the surface we are walking on." Bell approaches the subject in terms of a personal quest to avoid video game-induced nausea, and reports similar negative experiences between dramamine (Gravol), Bornine, and Transderm V in the form of drowsiness. Bell also reports better success with ginger and peppermint oil, and even dramatic results with Sea Bands, a type of accupressure wrist devices I believe Kimiko refers to above. Interestingly, after a period of using the bands to play formerly troublesome games with no ill effects, Bell inadvertantly indulged one day without the bands -- and felt just fine. One might suggest that this is an example of the placebo effect, but I would suggest it may instead be the result of systematic desensitization; perhaps the bands did work for the time they were used, and being free to play without ill effect permitted the author's metabolism to 'learn' to tolerate the conflicitng information. This would explain the phenomenon of 'getting your sea legs', usually earned by protracted nausea and vomiting. The gamer's experience suggests that the suffering may not be a necessary part of becoming acclimatized. The trick may be to find your cure, and to stick with the activity long enough to overcome it. As an aside, it would be interesting to see if a 'cured' motion sickness candidate is symptom free across other conducive environments. For example, if beside visual stimulation Bell also experienced motion sickness thorugh kinetic stimuli as in rocking below deck on a boat, would the desensitization achieved through video games cross over to the sea sickness as well? If not, my suggestion would be peanut butter. A rounded teaspoon of peanut butter does wonders to settle your stomach on the sea, Billy... --BK 07:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Old Trials I participated in trials (with many other subjects - I think about 30 in all)investigating motion sickness at the institute of RAF medicine at RAE Farnborough around 1964 to 1965. Broadly, all subjects were presented with two situations of sensory conflict. They were subjected both to motion with no visual cues (a projected horizon which appeared to be static with reference to their bodies), and on another run they were subjected to a moving horizon with no real motion occurring. Several different frequencies of motion were tested for each subject in different sequencies. Several findings were clear. First, most subjects felt a degree of nausea, and each subject had their own critical frequency which induced nausea quickest. This was independent of whether the nausea was motion induced or visually induced. Second, most subjects slowly became less sensitive to motion as the experiments progessed. Third, those subjects already familiar with violent motion were least sensitive. Lastly, two subjects appeared to be immune. I'm sorry, I don't know whether the results were published, and therefore verifiable.
Jimbaer 14:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)jimbaer 19 April 2007
Removed from article as it sounds like quackery and no reference provided:
Another available treatment is Relief Band, a watch-shaped product worn on the wrist. It sends a painless electronic pulse through an acupuncture point. While it has been independently proven to relieve nausea caused by chemotherapy and other poison-induced forms of nausea, an independent study also found it provides no relief for nausea caused by motion sickness. (Miller and Muth 2004))
Can't there still be something about wrist bands in the article, even if "quackery" or debunked? Finding out about the purported effectiveness of wrist bands was the sole reason I sought out the article in the first place, and yet there wasn't one bit of information about them listed there.SpacemanSpiff27 (talk) 15:50, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Anything about why some people don't get motion sick? Maxwellstragedy
Hello, I usually never get car sick when we start traveling in the morning when I get up im usually fine. But for the last few years when we get up around 4 AM and before to leave in the car I always get motion sickness It usually right after I wake up. When we leave in the car I feel sick and nauseous. Does any Have any idea why this only happens in the morning and how to stop it?
3D computer games
Anyone know how motion sickness when playing 3D computer games (like first person shooters) is caused? It happens to me sometimes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 23:33, 14 January 2007 (UTC).
If your talking about first person 3D games (like when you get to look through the characters eyes and see what they see), then it's because you see movement going somewhere in the game, but your brain can't process the fact that even though you see movement, you aren't actually moving yourself, causing an surge of confusion, which is what causes your simulator sickness.
Merging - No
Motion sickness is not sea sickness and vice-versa. Each has its parameters that some are subject to which might not be induced on land, sea or air. Ronbo76 06:29, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Having two items on the same page does not mean they're synonymous, they would have their own sections. Vicarious 04:33, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- According to "the most common theory" (see main article and 1 - the reference being a section of the Navy's General Medical Officer Manual and thus containing generally accepted theories) seasickness, carsickness, simulation sickness, airsickness and space sickness are all the same thing: a conflict between the motion perceived by the eyes and by the inner ear being interpreted by the brain as intoxication with a hallucinogenic substance. Consequently, merging is appropriate indeed. 220.127.116.11 21:51, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Chinese version is completely wrong. Help!!!
The Chinese wikipedia entry for motion sickness is completely wrong. It's used by a pseudoscientist to promote his anti-science message. I have changed it back into the translation of the first sentence of the English version. How do I prevent this be changed back into the wrong content again? This guy is disrupting several chinese bbs's to promote his pseudosience. He will certainly come back and vandalize the wiki site again. I would also like help in translating the whole entry.
Imagined simulation motion sickness?
Am I the only person who doesn't get simulation sickness from viewing it on a screen but instead from imagining severe motion (in my case, waves of water or water beds, etc.) while laying with my eyes closed? I don't get too bad of motion sickness while in a pool but that night, hours and hours after swimming I'm kept awake by constantly feeling sick from dreaming of / picturing waves or feeling as if I'm in a body of water. I can't seem to find anything about this, though. I would assume it is the same as the simulation sickness mentioned in the article that is only contributed to video-games, but I have never once experienced this while playing any manner of first person video-game. Does anyone else get this? TealMan 11:19, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Inconsistent NASA statistics?
The article says 60% of NASA's space shuttle astronauts experience space sickness. In another part, it also says 50% of NASA's astronauts have experience space sickness at some point. Doesn't the fact that 60% of space shuttle astronauts get space sickness on their first time give a lower bound for the percentage of astronauts that have ever felt space sickness? I suppose that this later 50% figure could take into account some other types of "non-space-shuttle" astronauts, if such exist. I'm not exactly an expert in the field! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 15:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
- There are more astronauts than just shuttle astronauts. As the article informs us, earlier astronauts ('capsuleers'?) did not seem to be as affected by spaceflight, presumably because of the confined space of a capsule. Because a fairly significant percentage of astronauts have achieved spaceflight via capsules, I think the numbers given are reasonable. Frankja79 (talk) 19:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I was told those strips of material hanging down under the back of cars that touch the road prevent car sickness. Is this true, and if so how does it work? Thisnamestaken (talk) 20:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I believe what you are referring to are there to ground the car so that the car does not build up an electric charge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 09:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
The section about hallucinations seems completely unverifiable. I can't find it anywhere on the web and it seems pretty far-fetched to me. Sounds like this could easily be a myth. Anyone else heard of this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrwhale888 (talk • contribs) 22:51, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
This reference appears rather counterintuitive to me. On the basis of your explanation of motion sickness as arising from sensory conflict, I was puzzled as to how a device which blocks visual inputs while travelling would reduce nausea rather than excaerbate it. From the ViBAN website: "[ViBAN's] patented engineering blocks the passenger's view of motion outside the moving vehicle, while providing an undisturbed view inside the vehicle. You will see what is in your lap but not outside motion. The eye tells the brain you are moving because it sees motion, while other body sensors tell the brain you are still." I think the developers of this product have got it the wrong way around - the problem is that the eye tells the brain you are not moving, contrary to the other "body sensors". This seems to me like a poorly thought-out marketing rouse and not worthy of mention on this page. Melissza (talk) 11:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- I felt the same way about this section. Being one who suffers from car and simulation sickness myself I can in fact say that even reading or other activities are much more bearable when I hold up the book in front of a window to allow my peripheral vision to see more movement. I wouldn't want others with my problem to incorrectly invest in this product when it is unlikely to help them so will add a disclaimer rather than remove it entirely without reference, I apologize if this is not the correct course of action but with how old this previous question is I wouldn't want to wait for an actual wiki editor without leaving at least a caution to readers in the meantime.
I also believe someone should add the facts that allowing oneself to see stationary objects while gaming, as well as the already mentioned moving scenery while driving are effective even if only in one's periphery, helping significantly to reduce the effects due to a greater agreement between the senses while still allowing those other activities such as reading in a car. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 14:33, 16 December 2012 (UTC)