# Talk:Mountain

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## Problem with Mount Davidson

This is a mess.

This article tells us that it has a "height of 300 m (980 ft), which makes it ten feet short of the minimum for a mountain by American designations." Ignoring the doubtful mathematics (980 + 10 = 1000?), the line is rightly tagged as needing a citation.

The Mount Davidson article gives us a height of "928 feet (283 m)", sourced to the U.S. Geological Survey. That makes it pretty reliable. So the claim in this article seems just plain wrong.

The best solution would appear to be removal.

HiLo48 (talk) 05:27, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Anybody? HiLo48 (talk) 15:23, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Totally agree. Even the Mount Davidson page agrees with you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.75.38.196 (talk) 03:04, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

## Grammer question

In the first paragraph of the definition section, is relatively the proper word? Mcx8xu (talk) 13:29, 24 February 2012 (UTC)mcx8xu

Yes, its in a quotation from the OED. What it means is that a table mountain may have several "peaks", each of which in absolute terms are thousands of feet above sea-level, but since they are only a few feet higher than the plateau they don't count as separate mountains. -- Q Chris (talk) 13:43, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

## "Closest point to outer space" dubious

Chimborazo, Ecuador, the point farthest from the center of the Earth, the closest point to outer space[1]

In the first picture (reproduced here), I find the assertion that the point farthest from the center of the Earth is "the closest point to outer space" rather dubious, as what causes the Earth to bulge in the middle (i.e. its rotation) should also cause the atmosphere to bulge there, perhaps even more so, if we take ratios rather than absolute distances. Is the source considered reliable? Even if so, why should it be in bold? cmɢʟee 00:45, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

References

## Chaco it out

Check out water on chat page on the to do list at the top. It's the bottom bullet point. So ridiculous :::; — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.31.25.8 (talk) 02:52, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

## re the Intro

I glanced at and watchlisted this when "you guys" targeted it for improvement as a signature/core article.....second look now, and as per my first impression at time of watchlisting, the intro strikes me as very subjective, not accurate, and in need of proper citation......Skookum1 (talk) 05:06, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, this whole thing's pretty weak. Thinking we should leave rewriting the lead until all the body work is finished. That way it can sum up what's actually reffed lower down. 05:20, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

## Core literature

I've noticed a lot of weak sourcing here, so maybe a good exercise is to start listing some of the "canonical" mountain writing. 05:20, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Bermicourt and I have added half of these citations in the last 10 days. Please feel free to improve! The first source, below, is already cited: I'll update the reference.—hike395 (talk) 05:42, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
It was stuff like "wisegeek.com" and "go4awalk.com" that was jumping out, I can see the reliable ones you guys are adding. Good work. 05:56, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Bad ones replaced by good ones. —hike395 (talk) 06:33, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
there's a BC specific one Landforms of British Columbia S. Holland, originally published in the 1950s, may have a definition in it, but also has extensive sources/references; don't think it's online, it may be, used as citations on various Mountain Range articles.Skookum1 (talk) 08:20, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

### List of sources

• Gerrard, John. Mountain Environments: An Examination of the Physical Geography of Mountains. Cambridge, Mass: MIT Press, 1990. Print. 05:22, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
• Bernbaum, Edwin. Sacred Mountains of the World. San Francisco: Sierra Club Books, 1990. Print. Author bio at the Banff Centre 06:04, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

## Comment

The included photo of Mount Rainier is wonderful to see. Speling12345 (talk) 8:26, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

## Numerical accuracy

Where does the figure 8,849.868 m come from? It seems wildly/misleadingly over-precise.80.229.172.13 (talk) 12:56, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

It comes from a precise conversion from 29035 feet to metres - I've rounded it to the nearest metre. Mikenorton (talk) 15:01, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

## Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2015

Please change "the Irish Republic" to "Ireland", the correct name of the country. 137.248.1.31 (talk) 11:07, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Not done Ireland is the name of the island, which is divided between the Republic of Ireland, and Northern Ireland, a part of the United Kingdom. - Arjayay (talk) 16:04, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Ireland is the name of the island and also the name of the country. Republic of Ireland is an official description of the state and can be used to avoid ambiguity but, as stated in the constitution, the name of the country is Éire in Irish or Ireland in English. 'Ireland' is used at the EU and UN for example. 'Irish Republic' is not correct in any sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Irish_state Since the sentence begins "In the United Kingdom and the Irish Republic...", it is clear that the reference is to the state and there is no ambiguity and so it should be "In the United Kingdom and Ireland..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.248.1.31 (talk) 15:12, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

As you are unhappy with my initial response, I'll let another editor decide your re-raised request, but to my mind "the United Kingdom (In full: "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland") and Ireland" double counts Northern Ireland.
As I'm sure you can imagine, the "correct" words to be used in Wikipedia; for all, and parts of, Ireland, have been already been discussed at great length.
Please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Ireland-related articles/Ireland disambiguation task force in particular the section that states the current uses on Wikipedia:-
• Ireland - currently used for the island as a geographical entity and its entire political and cultural history
• Republic of Ireland - currently used for the Irish state's article, which includes its post 1921 political history, and some of its pre-1921 cultural history
• Northern Ireland - the UK country in the northeast of the island of Ireland
- Arjayay (talk) 17:05, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

## Semi-protected edit request on 30 March 2015

Dear friends. Can you guys please help me how to edit semi-protected pages? Suntalkha (talk) 00:51, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Not done as you have not requested a change. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 01:10, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

## Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2015

208.131.181.108 (talk) 15:43, 20 April 2015 (UTC) A mountain is a landform that is usually over 500 metres.

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. There is already a rather detailed and sourced section on "definition" Cannolis (talk) 15:53, 20 April 2015 (UTC)