Talk:Mud dauber

Red Mud Daubers[edit]

In Oklahoma we have quite a few mud daubers that are red or brownish-red. Are these a separate sub species? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.154.26.176 (talk) 21:46, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the redirect to Talk:Black and yellow mud dauber since this article should have its own talk page. --Cab88 06:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do they sting? I was raised believing they don't, but their classification as "wasps" makes me wonder.--Mokru 18:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I read somewhere that they do sting but rarely sting humans and are non-aggresive to large creatures, and if they do it isn't that painful as far as wasp species stings go. Probably something evolutionary about mud nests meaning they don't come into conflicts with humanity or large critters like normal wasp nests do, so aggresive tendancies towards that or poison against it would be wasted. However they do technically sting against certain other creatures, I think spiders were mentioned in the article. Sadly I have been unable to find it using google or yahoo search so can't put this up as I don't have a source, but hopefully that information will help someone else be able to locate one. I do not recall if the stings are in defense, or in defense and for hunting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.137.173 (talk) 07:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've been thinking about getting stung to see how bad it hurts and/or if I'm allergic to it. I broke a nest open today and a single larva popped out and so did about 15 dead (but still full of juice) spiders, all with green spots on their thoraxes. It was cool. I think this page needs more information on them. What they eat, the different species, how they produce the mud (I guess the digest it) etc. -- Jalemo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jalemo (talk • contribs) 19:32, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(removed a sentence of random characters by 72.188.108.207 on 22 May 2009). Shervinemami (talk) 07:43, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Would like to see some information on how the insect transports the mud for nest building. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.190.8.13 (talk) 17:50, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I live in OK and there are usually black and yellow dirt daubers around my area, and they are taking over my house. Any help would be appreciated. 2001:5B0:28FF:EF0:0:0:0:3D (talk) 09:40, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Overview[edit]

First sentence states "the latter two species above"

There are only two species mentioned above. Somebody with some knowledge about the subspecies please fix this. 2602:306:30D1:25D0:15D5:ABC5:6EBF:29C4 (talk) 01:31, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dialect differences[edit]

It would be useful to have some discussion of the dialect regions where "mud dauber", "mud wasp", and "dirt dauber" are used to describe these creatures. For one data point, in my north Georgia dialect they're "dirt daubers". -- Jim Henry (talk)

Merger proposal[edit]

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

To not merge on the grounds that these are overlapping but distinctly notable sets; to review Wikidata interlanguage links. Klbrain (talk) 05:17, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I propose to merge Spheciformes into Mud dauber. I think that the content in the Spheciformes article can easily be explained in the context of Mud dauber, and the Mud dauber article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Spheciformes will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. MiXT4PE (talk) 18:20, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose since this article is not on a taxonomic group and not all Spheciformes fall into this concept.--Kev min § 19:11, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose - you do not merge articles on groups containing thousands of species into articles that deal with a very tiny subset of that larger group; it's like asking to merge the article for "animal" into the "Grevy's Zebra" article. Dyanega (talk) 20:31, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - If the merger is not a possibility we need to clean up the site links to other languages. The English Spheciformes-article is linked to the German article for Mud dauber (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grabwespen). Also linked is the Norwegian article (https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravevepser_(Spheciformes) ) which is already a merged version of the two. MiXT4PE (talk) 07:14, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose - They are not the same thing. Mud Daubers are only a type of Speciformes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peytonador (talk • contribs) 17:29, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the German and Norwegian Wikidata links, as discussed. Klbrain (talk) 05:37, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]