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unconfirmed freely welcomed bias statement being allowed into this article: "The reign of Aurangzeb saw the enforcement of strict Muslim fundamentalism which caused rebellions among the Sikhs and Hindus."

Reformation of the article on the Mughal Empire[edit]

The Mughal Empire (also Great Moghul, Great Mughal Empire, Persian: گُورکانِیانGūrkāniyān;[1] Urdu: مُغلِیَہ سَلطَنَت‎, Muġliyah Salṭanat,[2]) ruling from 1526 to 1857,[3] was a Muslim dynasty of Turkic-Mongol origin[4][5][6] that consolidated the Spread of Islam[7], availed the Persian language[8], utilized gunpowder[9][10] and extended over large parts of South Asia.[4][5][6]

The Mughal Empire maintained more than three centuries of rule, held supreme political authority over a population of 150 millions (nearly 1/4th of the world's population), and controlled lands covering 3.2 million square kilometers (1.2 million square miles) and had a GDP of $90 billion during its zenith[11][12][13][14][11]. Its Mughal Emperor's ruled for seven generations and maintained achievements in art, architecture and the vibrant records of their effective administration. The Mughal Empire is known as as an example of tolerance for its multicultural subjects of various linguistic and religious backgrounds[15][16]. In fact the Mughal Empire exceeded in size and resources its two contemporary early modern rival Islamic empires - Safavid Empire and the Ottoman Empire and was tantamount only to the Ming dynasty.

The advent of the Mughal Empire is conventionally introduced with the first Mughal Emperor Babur's victory over over Ibrahim Lodi in the First Battle of Panipat in the year 1526. By the year 1540 the Mughal Empire had ceased to exist and was eclipsed by the Suri Dynasty because Sher Shah Suri ousted the second Mughal Emperor Humayun until it was restored by the third Mughal Emperor Akbar and his regent Bairam Khan, together they defeated defeated Hemu during the Second Battle of Panipat and reestablished the Mughal Empire and created a multicultural basis for its subjects. The empire experienced architectural excellence during the reign of the fifth Mughal Emperor Shah Jahan. By the year 1690, the realms of the Mughal Empire spanned from Kabul in the west to Chittagong in the east from Leh in the north to Cape Comorin in the south[17] being at its peak during the reign of its sixth Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb.

During the reign of the fourteenth Mughal Emperor Muhammad Shah internal militancy reached new heights when the Maratha Confederacy overran various provinces and raided the Mughal imperial capitol at the Battle of Delhi (1737). In the year 1739, Nadir Shah inflicted a feral defeat to the Mughal Empire during the Battle of Karnal. When the sixteenth Mughal Emperor Alamgir II ascended to the throne due to the favor of Grand Vizier Imad-ul-Mulk, he tried to re-centralize the Mughal Empire by allying himself with Ahmad Shah Durrani in the year 1756 and then expelled Grand Vizier Imad-ul-Mulk and blockaded himself within the capitol with the help of Najib ad-Dawlah in Delhi. This action initiated the Battle of Delhi (1757) and its aftermath which, led to the peak of the expansion of the Maratha Confederacy. Once again the Mughal Empire had diminished until it was revived by Ahmad Shah Durrani and his coalition that decisively defeated the Maratha Confederacy led by Sadashivrao Bhau, during the Third Battle of Panipat and restored the Mughal Empire to its eighteenth Mughal Emperor Shah Alam II.[18]

The last emperor, Bahadur Shah II issued a Firman supporting the Indian Rebellion of 1857 and was therefore tried by the British for treason, imprisoned, exiled and the last remnants of the Mughal Empire were taken over by the British Raj. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PJDF2367 (talkcontribs) 17:47, 10 October 2013‎

I don't see any argument here (involving claims and warrants). You have merely reproduced your last edited version of the lead. Again, please tell us what you are attempting to remove, add or change in the article and why. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
As I have explained below, the lead sentence of an important article cannot be a selective list of Wikilinks to other articles. Your lead sentence does not conform to WP:NPOV; it is not the consensus view of historians. In any case, gunpowder, by which you mean cannons, was first used in India by the Portuguese, not the Mughals. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:06, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
I find that PJDF2367's text centers too much in glorifying the achievements of Islam, and it omits anything that smells as non-Muslim.
This reminds me a bit of an editor who kept exaggerating Islam's role in history, including the flawed claims about early knowledge of gunpowder by Arabic chemists. --Enric Naval (talk) 18:18, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

I aagree-this article has become an Islamist pov pusher group's territory.Many times a request wasput forth to issue time-based maps and SUCH MAPS WERE POSTED. A certain group [ religious fundamentalist probably ] keeps removing that map and posting a laughab;e cartoon in a wikipedia article.You are right .It has become an Islamist article. Skylark2008 (talk) 19:51, 12 December 2013 (UTC) Skylark The map is totally wrong.the effective mughal rule was limited to north india and parts of central india. leave alone maharashtra,karnataka,tamil nadu,kerala,andhra pradesh-they had no control over chattisgarh,large parts of orissa,jharkhand and even eastern maharashtra.the only effective incursion in the deccan was into the territory of the golkonda kingdom-later turned into the nizami kingdom of hyderabad.i completely agree with the former writer that the area shown has been a depiction of the campaign areas.thanks

mughal empire was small[edit]

122.177.110.101 (talk) 13:48, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. --Stfg (talk) 14:19, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Strangest map-with religious POV bias.[edit]

The map is totally wrong.the effective mughal rule was limited to north india and parts of central india. leave alone maharashtra,karnataka,tamil nadu,kerala,andhra pradesh-they had no control over chattisgarh,large parts of orissa,jharkhand and even eastern maharashtra.the only effective incursion in the deccan was into the territory of the golkonda kingdom-later turned into the nizami kingdom of hyderabad.i completely agree with the former writer that the area shown has been a depiction of the campaign areas.thanks

good historical maps are posted time and again but get removed by certain fundamentalist interest groups.Wikipedia has become a haven for POV pushing on historical articles.If this continues,internet traffic will look to other sites for at least historical information. Skylark2008 (talk) 19:55, 12 December 2013 (UTC) Skylark

Improper article[edit]

This article is pro-Maratha pro-Sikh pro-dissent against Mughal Emperors. It ignores the political and social achievements of the Mughal Empire and the three phases of the history of the Mughal Empire which are the three Battles of Panipat. Furthermore this articles mentions nothing about the different periods that the Mughal Empire went through from how it arose as a world power during its times and how it gradually declined. This article should be edited properly by an expert who understands the Mughal perspective of how South Asia was governed.

There should be no place in this article for opponents of the Mughal Empire, who are trying to white wash history such as Akbar's subjugation of the Rajputs and particularly the victories of Aurangzeb against the Maratha Confederacy, the atrocities committed by Maratha leaders such as Shivaji, Sambhaji, and even Sikh leaders like Banda Singh and their forces, the Deccan Wars are ignored, the Maratha resurgence during the reign of Mughal Emperor Muhammad Shah is ignored, Nadir Shah's invasion is ignored, The defeat of Ahmad Shah Duranni by prince Ahmmad Shah Bahadur is ignored. The assassination of Alamgir II is ignored. And the causes of the Third Battle of Panipat and the events that led towards that conflict. The reign of Shah Alam II is also being ignored in this article and so is the reign of Bahadur Shah Zafar.09:13, 7 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.182.43.195 (talk)

Bichitr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vrzovski (talkcontribs) 18:53, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
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