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moved section of words and terms to talk page - raw material[edit]

This section, previously in the article, is a lexicon of common objects and places. That's exactly where it came from, a dictionary of Chibcha words. Contrary to the blunt statement that these are objects worshipped by the Muisca, they are not sacred objects (most of them). For example, Datura stramonium, a poisonous weed with hallucinagenic properties, was used in a cultural (some might say spiritual) ritual; it wasn't worshipped itself. If we want to include this item in the article, what we'd like to know is, what was the purpose of that ritual, how was the weed used within it (they ate it, smoked it, used it in a soup, adorned their bodies with it, or what?), and what purpose did the weed serve? Similarly with the other objects, animals and plants. This section is raw material for the article, and requires research to establish what significance these things have; they can't just be stuck in with no text. I've retained the template tags previously at the top of the section.Sbalfour (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[old section title]: Gods and sacred persons, places, animals and objects

The pre-Columbian inhabitants of Colombia worshipped many forces of nature, animals and plant species, besides the main gods. Among others:

Persons

chyquy: priests of the calendar
guayque: chief
guecha, güecha: warrior
mohanes: priests of water
tegua: healer
ubzaque, uzaque: great chiefs
uaia, guaia: mother, a lady

Terrestrial places, animals and objects

aba: maize
biza: snail
chíe: urtica plant
chiguacá: verdolaga plant Portulaca oleracea
chiinegüi: small captain fish
chuhuia: mouse
cona: mochila bag
fiva: air
fupqua: crab
gacha: chicha pot
gata: fire
guaquy: mastuerzo plant Lepidium sativum
guayacán: guayacan tree Caesalpinia spp.
guamuyhyca: black captain fish
gue mny muy: house of the sacred gold ornaments
hayo: coca plant
hosca: tobacco plant
iomza: potato
iosua: tadpole
mnya: gold, energy
mocoba: frailejón plant
Muyquyta, Muequetá: sacred land. (Bacata savannah, placement of the modern city of Bogotá.)
quincha: hummingbird
quizo: perdix bird
sie: water
simte: owl
suhuzy mny: house of the war ornaments
sumguy: tortola bird Zenaida auriculata
sumne: duck
suquysca: cerraja plant Sonchus spp.
timaná: ceremonial cup
tymanzo: vulture
tyhyquy: the borrachero plant Datura stramonium

Celestial places and objects

chia: the moon
cuza fiba, Chuchaviva: the rainbow (chuquy) deity - the sign of death.
faoba: cloud
fagua: a star, the morning star
opaguegue: house of the moon
sue or xue: the sun

Metaphysical entities

Bachué: the mother of mankind
Bague: great grandmother, the mind of the universe
Bochica: the savior
Cuza: the one that is like the night
Chibchachum: the world holder.
Chimi: the pulp, the first being
Chímini: the golden light.
Chiminigagua: the golden pulp, the force of creation
Nem-catacoa: deity, the protector of festivities, beer (corn beer), and the arts
Quemes: the messengers
Sue: The parrot, husband of Bachué, which is sometimes depicted as a child in her arms.

Abstractions

bxogonoa: the period of a generation
fanzaquia: the harvest.
fo: the spirit of music
ie: the path; the smoke
itugue: the emptiness
poporo: important device in the ceremony of Hayo (coca chewing).
saga: the ceremonial fast
titua: house of feathers
tyba: the owner of the knowledge.
yopo: the plant gate of the knowledge

Cut-and-Paste copyvio[edit]

Aha! This entire article (before my trivial edits), appears to be cut-and-pasted, with translation, from here. I do not think it can be maintained in the encyclopedia. Foobar.Sbalfour (talk) 01:44, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That source is dated 2012. The article is here since 2007. It´s centrodeartigos.com who copy-pasted wikipedia, not the other way around — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.248.87.162 (talk) 21:04, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]