Talk:Mystical theology

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How can we improve this article?[edit]

The information in this article should simply be added to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism and then this article removed.199.48.195.232 (talk) 09:58, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


The title is completely misleading. You land here looking for information on mysticism, yet there is only Roman Catholic Mysticism listed at all, which is misleading.

--Einder_Darkwolf (talk) 22:26, 1 July 2012 (EST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.110.25.91 (talk)

The text is really good, but it creates the potentially mistaken impression that there is only one mystical theology, while in fact there are many authors with different persepectives as well as commonalities. My question is, does it make sense to subdivide the article into more sub-headings, and show contributions of several authors on each? Hust asking.

--Ambrosius007 (talk) 09:02, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I've just done a minimum to create a short lead section, and add just a little context. Yes, it makes sense to introduce subsections to clarify different perspectives. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:19, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll make a try, please correct if you don't like it. There is another point I am wondering about. Is mystical theology limited to a certain time? Or, are modern writers like St. Terese of Lisseaux, a "Church doctor"!, or Thomas Merton (his early writings) candidates to be mentioned? I have no firm view on this.

--Ambrosius007 (talk) 12:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

   The textbook, Light From Light - An Anthology of Christian Mysticism, used by DePaul University in Chicago, lists both mystics you reference, with Fr. Merton covered in the last chapter, chronologically.  It seems the criteria for its editors' inclusion had to do with whether a given school of thought flowed therefrom - and was deemed "systemtic" - without attempting to elaborate on any given system (beyond perhaps, 'repent'), commencing with Origen.  However, it notes Fr. Merton's development of no new school, but rather, lists his work for having sucessfully synthesized certain preexisting writings. 
   It appears now that Fr. Merton's previous abbot, Fr. Thomas Keating, in his trilogy's last writing, that he goes beyond where Fr. Merton left off (with New Seeds of Contemplation), especially in Invitation To Love. So, if the ground for inclusion beginning with Origen, as the first systematic theologian on mysticism is a "system", then Fr. Merton just might update the matter at hand, as first raised by St. Paul: for the reason he preferred the gift of prophecy over tongues (e.g. anothers' edification - being always timely, always timeless). PWR Finder (talk) 15:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

P.S. The Wikipedia page "Christian Mysticism" lists the most exhaustive compilation of mystics (per se), I've ever seen. It may be useful for your purposes.

Mystical theology and mysticism[edit]

Bernard McGinn (1991) The Presence of God: A History of Western Christian Mysticism; Crossroads Publishing Co, NY (in 4 vol): "...the term mystical theology antedated the coining of the word mysticism by over a millenium..." p. xiv vol. 1. The first volume, Foundations of Mysticism, is 343 pp. long with nearly 100 pp of notes, 40 pp. Bibliography. If you can wade through something that long it is readable.--Margaret9mary (talk) 19:45, 7 August 2012 (UTC)