Talk:NASA insignia

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Two or three NASA logos?[edit]

The article says that the Seal and the Insignia (according to the text the insignia is the original "meatball", not the "worm") are optically incompatible. How can this be if they are identical ("The original design and now official NASA Seal")? Are we actually talking about three logos (of which only two are shown by image)? And why is the original design called "meatball"? If it were just "ball", ok. But "meat"...?--SiriusB 17:20, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

There are three insignia. I have added the NASA seal. Calwatch 06:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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Sphere?[edit]

I don't see a sphere in the NASA Insignia yet the description describes one. Am I missing something or have they confused their description with the NASA Seal? Clan-destine 17:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

The blue ball background of the logo is the sphere mentioned. jtowns 06:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


Worm[edit]

I'd heard that the 'A' and the 'S' in 'NASA' are conjoined to emphasize the union of aeronautics and space. I am unable to find reference material on this, however. LorenzoB 04:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Order of images[edit]

Perhaps they could be placed in order of their design and then listed that way in the article? --12.217.237.175 (talk) 16:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Its OK. Extra999 06:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

public domain[edit]

The article claims that the NASA insignia and other logos are in the "public domain" and references Code of Federal Regulations 14 CFR 1221. This regulation mentions nothing about public domain. NASA's insignia, seal, and other logos are the few things that NASA does have usage controls on, particularly on advertising and souvenir products. "Public Domain" doesn't seem to fit here. Is there a reference that spells out the status of these logos? Is there that calls it "public domain" or is that being assumed here?--RadioFan (talk) 11:56, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

There are no better images of an insignia on a vehicle?[edit]

It's a lovely picture of an X-15, but you can't see the insignia on it even at the largest resolution. Tastyslowcooker (talk) 21:44, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Color[edit]

The RGB values of the colors in the insignia ([[1]]) don't match the RGB values mentioned in the article itself. The article lists the red as having values 252R, 61G, 33B however the values in the image are 236R, 28G, 36B, and the article listst the blue as having values 11R, 61G, 145B however the values in the image are 0R, 102G, 178B. They can't both be "official"...can they? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.103.193.191 (talk) 23:25, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

The graphic at Wikimedia Commons was apparently lifted straight out of the PDF document listed as its source without checking the RGB values before it was transferred to Wikipedia. Moreover, there's an external link to the "official" graphics from NASA's Glenn Research Center in Encapsulated PostScript format, and when I import the insignia into Inkscape, it shows an RGBA value of #ee293dff (238,41,61) for the red vector and #1a5dadff (26,93,173) for the blue disc, which do not match the RGBA values given in the "Usage" section, #fc3d21ff (252,61,33) and #0b3d91ff (11,61,145), respectively. (The "ff" value at the end of the Inkscape color hex codes stands for "alpha", or transparency; a value of "ff" means solid, with no transparency.)

Since the Glenn Research Center files are offered as "official", I'd tend to trust them more than the numbers given in the Wikipedia article or the NASA PDF document. Accordingly, I've tagged the color list in the article with a "citation needed" template. I'm not sure if Inkscape preserves RGB values exactly when images are imported from PostScript. The thumbnails of the EPS and SVG files in the file manager certainly look different on my monitor, although this could have more to do with the way the thumbnails are generated by the operating system or how raster thumbnails might be embedded in EPS files than with differences in color encoding.

I've inserted an HTML table below with the cell backgrounds colored according to the codes, and even on a cheap 24-bit LCD monitor with a color gamut less than 16.7 million colors the difference is readily apparent. It is likely that the colors in the PDF publication were adjusted for a specific printing process, not with the intention of the insignia therein being used for fabrication. — QuicksilverT @ 18:25, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

NASA PDF publication blue
#0066b2ff (0,102,178)
NASA PDF publication red
#ec1c24ff (236,28,36)
NASA Glenn Research Center blue "official"
#1a5dadff (26,93,173)
NASA Glenn Research Center red "official"
#ee293dff (238,41,61)
Wikipedia "Usage" blue
#0b3d91ff (11,61,145)
Wikipedia "Usage" red
#fc3d21ff (252,61,33)

None of the logos show the NASA meatball[edit]

Get an old picture of the vehicle assembly building. The Star with the red & blue lines going around it is the NASA meatball. Called a meatball because the lines around it look like spaghetti. REALLY!!--66.41.154.0 (talk) 18:34, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Isn't that the Bicentennial logo? See for instance <http://research.archives.gov/description/2108434>. The "NASA Meatball" definitely refers to the blue disc logo. (Google Books) 67.188.212.42 (talk) 05:25, 21 May 2014 (UTC)