|This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Nail gun article.|
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- 1 Images
- 2 the parts of a nail gun
- 3 longevity of a nail gun
- 4 Moved links
- 5 Direct/indirect pneumatic.
- 6 Can a nail gun be used as a weapon?
- 7 Register nail guns and only crimminals will have nail guns!
- 8 Powder actuated
- 9 Additional Pop Culture Uses
- 10 Pop culture plague
- 11 Nail Gun Modes?
- 12 Restoring the deleted pop culture section?
- 13 Gettin' nailed
- 14 New material
- 15 Split the entry "nailer" into "nail gun" and "wood nailer board"
- 16 Clipped vs full head stick angles
- 17 Citations Needed
- 18 22-24 gauge?
- 19 Dispute about a paragraph about fictional nailgun weapons
Concerning me adding extra links to images, please note that I have no connection with the construction trade or the tool trade and I am not advertizing for my benefit or the benefit of relatives or friends or associates. Anthony Appleyard 06:50, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
the parts of a nail gun
Can anybody edit the main article so it tells a little bit about the parts of a nail gun, and which parts tend to fail first, and need replacement? Perhaps somebody could post an image of the parts of a pneumatic nailgun, properly taken apart (and enlarged or magnified), and then later put back together again? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs) 06:25, 22 July 2006
longevity of a nail gun
What parts of a nail gun wear out first? Do nail guns have a limited lifespan? In the course of a detailing of the assets of a recent inheritance, I found a nailgun in my garage. It looks like it has been dinged up a bit. Should I throw it away, or should I buy a new one? In the next couple weeks, I have to build a new deck, so I was wondering what kind of maintenance should be performed on a nail gun to keep it in proper working order. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk • contribs) 06:25, 22 July 2006
- an electric nailgun being used
- a Hilti nailgun
- a Senco framing gun
- 8 images of nailguns
- a pneumatic nailgun
- Remington cartridge-powered nailgun
- trolley-mounted, for firing downwards: line drawing
I do not have enough experience with nailguns to know, but dont most air powered guns use an indirect method with a piston? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knife Knut (talk • contribs) 21:10, 20 October 2005
Can a nail gun be used as a weapon?
In movies sometimes it can, but what about real life? Are there any stories of nail guns being used by criminals or for self defense? Mieciu K 12:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
I dont think a nail gun has any real killing range, unless moddefied, I thinkShaun Churchman 02:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, if modified it can look scary and drive a nail from 200 yards , but (probably for want of carrying around an air-tank/compressor) I have not heard of one actually being used as a weapon. --Osndok (talk) 18:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Register nail guns and only crimminals will have nail guns!
Don't see why it couldn't be used as a weapon. We've been killing each other with most anyting we can get our paws on since we climbed out of the ooze. There is a great little tongue-in-cheek video about registering nail guns, I think it was made in Vermont. It went around the internet(s) in 2004. Might be on YouTube now. CApitol3 16:03, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- "Climbed out of the ooze"? We came from aliens, dontcha know? --188.8.131.52 (talk) 09:29, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I have edited the powder actuated tools wiki just to give a bit more information regarding those specific tools.
Also in repsonse to the above question yes most pnuematics do have a piston.
In response also to the parts that fail and need replacing it depnds what make the tool is. It will vary between manufactirers some have rubber 'O' rings that require replacemtn where as other tools have metal rings that do not. So it would be hard to explain how to take one apart without listing every make and model and I only know about the ones in the orange boxes. (Paslode or Spit)
Roblynas 03:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Additional Pop Culture Uses
I'm not sure about the debate on the pop culture references below, and use the following or ignore it as you see fit, but Penn and Teller use a nail gun in an illusion in their show. In the bit, Penn is alone on stage. In front of him is a thin wooden board on top of a thick steel board, so that as nails are driven in to it, they only penetrate the wood, stand high above it, and are visible by the audience. Penn introduces the pneumatic nail gun and the idea of the clip of nails that feeds it, and how some of them have been removed. He goes on to explain that he has memorized the places in which the nails have been removed. He then starts rapidly firing the nails into the board and alternatively at different parts of his body, and miraculously only puts the gun to his body when the gun will not have a nail to fire. He explains how the real trick within the trick is learning how to not flinch when faced with the possibility of making a mistake and causing his own death. Saying any more would be giving too much away, but it might be worthy of note! Feel free to copy and paste any of this if you choose to include this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 21:19, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Pop culture plague
Half of this article is obscure pop culture references. Normally, I'd just delete them en masse, but since there's limited other content on the page, I'll leave it alone for now. As in all other pop culture laundry lists, there's no criteria aside from the author's personal bias (in this case, towards video games), and the list can never be maintained in any meaningful way. These lists serve no purpose other than allowing the author to show off their obscure media knowledge and have no place in this (or nearly any other) Wikipedia article.James A. Stewart 23:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Nail Gun Modes?
The second "mode" is extremely unsafe. Someone using a nailer with the trigger held down runs the risk of bumping it against something like a leg and seriously injuring themselves. I'm going to remove that section. Deltacom1515 00:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Restoring the deleted pop culture section?
I noticed said section was deleted with the following rationale: "due to zero attempts to comply with wikipedia standards for inclusion in article. This is a mindless list of trivia". However, what if one restored it and then made such attempts? Or is it simply impossible to make it comply with the policy? mike4ty4 (talk) 09:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
A significant amount of new material was added in these edits on 22 September. I've removed this for now as it needs to be thoroughly checked first to ensure that it's kosher copyright-wise; after that it should be re-integrated in a wikified form. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 17:17, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Split the entry "nailer" into "nail gun" and "wood nailer board"
Nailer in construction is also a term used to specify a board that lays on top say CMU wall or concrete wall and is nailed to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Clipped vs full head stick angles
The angles were backwards in the article text -- round head nails are the ones that come in xhallower (20-21 degree) sticks and clipped head nails are the ones in the higher angle versions, due to the geometry of the heads. Can cite, I believe, if it's critical. Lihan161051 (talk) 18:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
- Two cites now, just removed dangling link. All existing refs are safety related, so more are definitely needed. NillaGoon (talk) 05:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Dispute about a paragraph about fictional nailgun weapons
- I inserted this paragraph in ==In popular culture== :-
|*Some popular fiction and videogames include authors' ideas of what a nail-firing gun used as a weapon might look like; e.g. ; (Avatar scenario); (F.E.A.R. scenario); they are very different from real nailguns.|
- Someone deleted it with edit comment "(needs reliable sources)". But, what needs proving is that "some fiction authors describe fictional nail-firing weapons" and what sort of weapon they imagine they would be, and that is proved by the links in this paragraph.Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:52, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- "Merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia" (WP:NOT). The links provided are questionable in terms of both copyright status and reliability, and do not provide the necessary context or reliable secondary sourcing to indicate the significance of these references or bring your proposed passage beyond the level of original research. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:09, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- There is no copyright breach in merely linking to the images. It is no more "original research" than is any other case of finding information on the web and using it as a source of information. It proves what I am stating, that fictional weapons so described are used in particular fictional scenarios. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- Wrong on both counts. "If you know or reasonably suspect that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, do not link to that copy of the work" (WP:LINKVIO). "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation" (WP:OR). Combining primary sources to further a particular point of view, as you are doing, is synthesis. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:48, 24 December 2013 (UTC)