Talk:National Health Service

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Note: To discuss the article National Health Service (England), please see Talk:National Health Service (England). this article is about the general concept of National Health Service.

[edit] History

I notice a lot of the history of the NHS and the motivations behind its creation - which equally applies to the rest of the UK - is displayed on the NHS England page, with scant information provided on, for example, the NHS Scotland page - and even less here.

I would like to gauge approval for expanding this article to cover the motivations behind the creation of a national health service in the UK, whilst providing a summary 'main article' link on each of the four NHSs' pages. --Breadandcheese (talk) 14:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

That sounds like a very sensible approach. -- Derek Ross | Talk 15:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Sorry to give a differing view, but the claim "which equally applies to the rest of the UK" is not entirely an accurate picture of the history. I think a better idea would be to add links from this article to the articles 'History of NHS Scotland', History of the NHS' etc Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 17:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
No need to apologise for giving a divergent opinion! It is just that neither the NHS Scotland page or this general NHS page makes mention of, for example, the Beveridge Report, the role of Bevan or the motivations behind the creation of an institution which has been so significant in UK history. One shouldn't have to go to the NHS in England page to find out this information, which is relevant across the UK. --Breadandcheese (talk) 18:55, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Manx NHS; ending of reciprocal rrangement with UK NHSs

What’s inappropriate about including the Manx system and expanding the topic to include all British Isles NHS systems? It’s topical (was in the news recently) and relates to territory within the Common Travel Area affecting potentially up to 70 million visitors. A traveler could visit there without even a passport, and find out that the NHS while looking like the others isn’t available nor does their EHIC card work if they’re ill. I think that makes the changes appropriate and useful, and I’d be happy to hear the reasoning why it’s not. Zagubov (talk) 09:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree, though I would not use the phrase 'British Isles' - better to just list the countries or say 'the United Kindgom and the Isle of Man'. Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 11:57, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks- found out more now- the cancellation of the agreement is postponed until October 2010, so will amend the info. Will choose a suitable reference when I get a moment. Zagubov (talk) 10:14, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

[edit] What this article needs

What remains unclear about this article is whether the NHS is an insurance scheme or outright government-owned (nationalized) health care -- meaning the state owns the providers (hospitals, doctors, etc.) If it's universal insurance (like Canada's Medicare), then who owns the providers? Are they largely private? If the NHS is a nationalized system, then is there any need for insurance per se? Wouldn't the system be funded primarily by taxes and supplemented by what Americans call "co-pays"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgay88 (talkcontribs) 15:30, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

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