Talk:National Hockey League

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French Translations[edit]

I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I feel that having french translations on page for the National Hockey League and the Stanley Cup might be a little excessive. As of the time I am writing this (06/16/12) we have 30 NHL teams in this past season, only one of which are from a French speaking locale (Montreal Canadians from Quebec). The 2011 population of Quebec represents 2.276% of the combined population of the United States and Canada. Additionally French and English are both official languages of Quebec. My final point, if I want to know about the National Hockey League or the Stanley Cup in French then I would be using the the French Wikipedia Site to look at the French Wikipedia pages for the NHL and the French French Wikipedia pages for the Stanley Cup. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.195.147.142 (talk) 01:07, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

The NHL, like Canada, is officially bilingual. The NHL is an organization that is officially known by two names, the NHL, and the LNH. They are both official designations. The NHL had its historical roots in Quebec, as the league was founded in Montreal. In addition to the Canadiens, the Ottawa Senators also use both languages (if you watched the Rangers-Senators playoff series this season, one side of the rink at Scotiabank Place had the French version of the Stanley Cup playoffs logo while the other side had the English version). After all, the Ottawa area is located along the Quebec-Ontario border. The NHL has also had other teams such as the Quebec Nordiques, the Montreal Wanderers, and a few others. Just because a majority of NHL teams are now in English-speaking areas, or in areas that have higher populations, or in the US instead of Canada, should not make the official French names "less important" from a historical point of view. Furthermore, just because there are articles about the same subject in the other language editions of Wikipedia is not an excuse to remove the foreign names in the first sentence here on the English Wikipedia. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:42, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Though of the course the Wanderers and the Maroons were both meant to appeal to the English speaking audience as opposed to the French. Jntg4Games (talk) 18:52, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

New playoff bracket for next year's realignment[edit]

I've been experimenting with playoff bracket designs for next year's playoffs, since the NHL is switching to a hybrid division-wild card playoff format. My new bracket is currently at User:Canuckian89/New NHL Bracket, with an example at User:Canuckian89/Sandbox. If anyone is interested in commenting, please feel free to do so at User talk:Canuckian89/New NHL Bracket. Canuck89 (chat with me) 01:55, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Believe the first and second rounds are called the Division Semifinals and the Division Finals. Jntg4Games (talk) 18:49, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Flags in infobox[edit]

To echo what I said in a previous thread (though, at that time, for different flags), since the country names do not indicate representatives of the country, or persons/teams competing on behalf of a country, I don't believe the flags in the infobox fall under any of the appropriate uses for flags under Wikipedia guidelines. Accordingly, I believe the flag icons can be dispensed with. I haven't found any related discussion threads in the archives for this talk page, other than the discussion related to the TV broadcasters; I don't know if there were any discussions on other talk pages. isaacl (talk) 17:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Concur. - BilCat (talk) 17:41, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
AgreeJOJ Hutton 18:19, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
The same thing appears to be going on at the NBA article. I'm not watching that article, so I won't revert there to avoid the appearence of stalking. I have been watchlisting the MLB article for some time, so I'll remove the flags there if they are added. Perhaps this needs to be brought up at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons for clarification. - BilCat (talk) 18:39, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
This came about because "I" am the one who edited the article yesterday and removed the flags inserted just a few days prior. My name showing up in the edit summery of the article is an apparent red flag (no pun intended), for Djsasso. He seems to always be checking up on my edits from time to time on this article. Notice he reverted my removal of the flags at NBA as well. He didn't just simply remove them, he literally went back in the edit history and "undid" my edit, as if to make a specific point I feel. JOJ Hutton 18:53, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I reverted here because I mainly edit ice hockey articles and its one of my most highly watched pages so when I saw them removed I reverted regardless of who did it. Not because it had anything to do with you personally. You just happen to be a person who has removed them on this page a few times. As for the NBA no I didn't do them to make a specific point, I just know then when someone removes them from this page they tend to go and remove them from the other pages as well (and the undo was only because its quicker to hit undo then to parse the page looking for the specific text to remove). -DJSasso (talk) 19:00, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I would have removed them here had I noticed their recent addition, but I missed it. As to his undoing the revert, it might well have been easier for him to just undo the edit, to assume good faith. He has regularly edited both articles for many years, to my knowledge. - BilCat (talk) 19:03, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Always willing to assume good faith, as long as a pattern of stalking doesn't arise. JOJ Hutton 19:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Personally I don't believe using the "undo" function signifies anything special—not only is it more convenient, it leaves an entry in the history log specifying exactly what edits were reverted, which is handy for those perusing the log and trying to figure out what was changed. I always use the "undo" function where possible, for these reasons. isaacl (talk) 19:24, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
There is a related discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Icons#Flags_in_sports_league.27s_infobox that you are invited to.—Bagumba (talk) 21:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Expansion[edit]

Noticed there's a whole paragraph specifically dicussing Wayne Gretzky in the expansion section... while it's definitely important, there's no introduction to it and no other comparable discussion of a single player. Could maybe use some editing Importemps (talk) 08:19, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Proposal to rename to National Ice Hockey league[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Page not moved. No way this proposal is ever carried out. It's prima facia ridiculous. oknazevad (talk) 01:43, 2 January 2014 (UTC)


(non-admin closure)

This is to not confuse with field hockey.

Funny joke. -DJSasso (talk) 19:55, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Just in case this is serious, no. Title does not require disambiguation because despite there being field hockey leagues with National Hockey League in the title, the North American ice hockey competition is the primary topic. Hack (talk) 01:08, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

headquaters[edit]

1185 Avenue of the Americas in Midtown Manhattan

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/realestate/commercial/27sqft.html?_r=0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.130.135.154 (talk) 20:10, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Divisions[edit]

Looking at the articles for the Atlantic Division and the Metropolitan Divisions, I think it's necessary that we change these to make them more accurate. The Atlantic Division after realignment has none of the same teams as the Atlantic pre-realignment, and imo that makes the history sections of the Atlantic Division article very misleading. I propose doing one of two things: 1. create a new Atlantic Division (1993-2013) article or 2. move the pre-2013 parts of the Atlantic Division article to the Metropolitan Division one. What do everyone else think? Insert90 (talk) 02:32, 1 September 2014 (UTC)