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I started to add the following:

Bigger befriends a white communist woman and returns to her house with her; her mother is blind and enters her daughter's bedroom while Bigger is there. Bigger, terrified,

Then the questions I don't remember the answers to: was she drunk? was he drunk? why did he put the pillow over her face? Has anyone read this more recently than 8 years ago? Koyaanis Qatsi 05:04 Jan 31, 2003 (UTC)

Working from a plot outline. Mary Dalton and her lover, Jan, befriend Bigger (not the other way round) took Bigger to the Communist meeting. Bigger did not want to be friends with them, but it was his job. They all drank. She was too drunk to take herself to bed. Bigger helped her to her bedroom. When her mother entered, Bigger covered Mary's face with a pilow to keep her quiet because he feared the mother's suspicions. Mother smelled booze, decided daughter was drunk, left. Bigger finds he has smothered her. Plot ensues. Want more? Ortolan88
No, that's plenty, thanks. I just couldn't remember the circumstances that led to the smothering. Koyaanis Qatsi


is it significant the character Max, Bigger's defense lawyer and a member of the communist party, closely resembles Marx, the author of The Communist Manifesto? perhaps I am simply yearning to find an irrelavant connection between the two.

Published in its Entirety?[edit]

In 1993 the novel was for the first time published in its entirety

Could anyone explain in the article what this means? I'm not seeing any reference to earlier released editions of the book being abridged. Thanks -- DeSales 02:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

The Library of America edition restored passages which had been cut on first publication to gain the Book of the Month bookclub recommendation. Philip Cross 12:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I can't add any "needed citation," but at least on the first movie version, that's not just made-up information or anything in terms of the criticism - Wright did indeed play Bigger while in his forties. If it says anything about the movie's reception, I couldn't sit through the whole thing - it felt too watered down and cheesy to me versus the original book.-- 05:24, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Plot summary[edit]

Someone keeps removing this section. It may need trimming or modification but not complete removal. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:41, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Just a note, the length of the summaries of books 1 and 2 sharply contrast the length of the summary of book 3. Can someone make sure that the plot summary lengths of the individual books are more equal? Thanks. Prayerfortheworld (talk) 02:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


Many were angered by the novel stating that Bigger acted in away that was not accepted to society, no matter what enviroment he was brought up in. He was the only negro to act in this way, and even the other negros were appauld by this behaviour and were angry at being classified in the same category as him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:47, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Allusions and references in other works[edit]

"Calm like a Bomb" by Rage Against the Machine references this novel (This is the Native Son, born of Zapata's guns), as well as James Baldwin's return home from Paris. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:06, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

"Native Son" is mentioned in Chapter 22 of Ralph Ellison's masterpiece novel "Invisible Man" published in 1952.

Where does this appear in Chp. 22 of "Invisible Man" ??? It is not in my copy of the text. (talk) 18:29, 18 October 2010 (UTC)