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Questionable text[edit]

The text labeling the photograph says "neurosurgeon," however, no neurosurgeon is pictured. The caption should read something like "Neurosurgical Procedure"

The quoted text below is opinionative and unprofessional, and should not be included in this entry. As a reference, entries on other medical professions, such as urology, cardiology, and cardiothoracic surgery shy away from this sort of tone.

"Neurosurgery is widely seen as one of the most prestigious fields in medicine. This is due to the extremely complex knowledge base required to master the field as well as the highly selective admission criteria for entry into neurosurgery residency programs. Finally, the minimal 6-7 year postgraduate training period required for neurosurgery is also among the longest and most challenging of any medical specialty."

Linguadue 20:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

On the other hand, Americans refer to "brain surgeons" as one of the most prestigious professional fields, requiring proverbial intelligence and skill. Please change the paragraph to adequately reflect this obvious reality, but don't just remove it. JFW | T@lk 21:52, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

'On the other hand, Americans refer to "brain surgeons" as one of the most prestigious professional fields...' is a notion derived from the American popular culture and wrought with sensational bias. The Anglo-American focus is further contrary to the neutral point of view, as Neurosurgery is an international field.

Readers turning to an encyclopedic entry on Neurosurgery are seeking factual, un-biased, information on the field.

'In the United Kingdom, competition is fierce for the senior house officer and specialist registrar posts leading up to a consultant qualification[1].' I did not delete this line from the article because it was referenced to a relevant and reliable source.

Wikipedia cannot be a forum to compare one medical field to all the others. I don't know one medical field that doesn't require proverbial intelligence and skill, that doesn't require an extremely complex knowledge base, and that doesn't have a long and challenging residency.

Out of curiosity, what is your specialty?

Linguadue 19:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

This isn't brain surgery rocket science. If the field's prestige is verifiable and notable, then it stays in. Otherwise, it goes. It doesn't really matter what the other specialties happen to include. WhatamIdoing (talk) 08:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Quoted text[edit]

The quoted text from the "U.S. Accreditation Council of Graduate Medical Education," seems to be written by and for a professional audience with more than a passing acquaintance with medical terminology.

Someone should clarify terms, provide links and generally re-structure this page. I found it less than helpful in understanding the history, current state of the field and pointers to recent developments.

Layman's definition please[edit]

The U.S. Accreditation Council of Graduate Medical Education definition given is aimed at graduate medical students and is rather too much for the layman. Can anyone come up with something easier to follow, but still accurate? Landolitan 15:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Encyclopedia Salesman[edit]

I just came back from a homeschooling convention, where I met an encyclopedia salesman among the booths who claimed that he created a fictitious "brain surgery" article in Wikipedia (I guess) in order to demonstrate Wikipedia's vulnerability to error. I told him I would fix it immediately and got on wifi to do just that. But I was unable to find any obvious errors and couldn't get anything more out of him than angry looks. Is this a standard spiel among Britannica salesman? The conversation went like this:

Salesman: What's your favorite encyclopedia?

Me: Wikipedia!

Salesman: You know the "brain surgery" article? I put a completely fictitious article up there myself! Yes, I did it myself!

Me: I will fix it immediately... <walk off with my pda in my hands>

Salesman: <angry stares>

Dbabbitt 01:02, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

That's called being a good salesman DrSatan (talk) 03:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

It's called being a dickhead and getting shown up for it, in a most deserving way. Nice going Dbabbitt, stick it to the man! CybergothiChé (talk) 10:32, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

External Links[edit]

The external links is getting out of hand, with various hospitals being added; soon we will have a directory listing here. MeekMark 01:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Noted via {{external-links}} template. - Ageekgal (talk) 05:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Pediartics[edit]

Neurosurgery should also cover VP shunt as this procedure is the most common practise in children. To manage the patients with hematoma (e.g. epi/subdural) from traffic acidents occupied the most neurosurgical procedures (almost 90%). This should be mentioned as well, otherwise, this article is talking about nothing indeed. Coloane (talk) 23:30, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Be bold -- if you can cite reliable, verifiable sources for those items, be bold and add them. - Ageekgal (talk) 05:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

PNS[edit]

the first sentense may have problem. PNS hasn't much neurosurigcal significance. Mostly these cases are the responsbilities for general surgeons even it is related to nervous system. Coloane (talk) 00:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

lack diagnostic info + GCS[edit]

this article should create a section for diagnostic procedure specifically for neurosurgery(brain surgery). Comprehensive examination by CT scan should be mentioned from the superficial cortical area to limbic system. Plus scores from the GCS should be mentioned in order to figure out the situation of patients before/after surgical operation. Without this info, this article is talking about nothing. Coloane (talk) 00:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

In the United States there are only about 3,000 neurosurgeons. and? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.132.232 (talk) 08:19, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Source of history[edit]

Good article here that would be useful incorporated into the article: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/24/health/24brain.html

-- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:38, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Not mentioning Professor Gazi Yasargil, the founder of Microneurosurgery in the 'SEE ALSO' section is vandalism itself. Please do not delete this edit without giving any reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zartus (talkcontribs) 17:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

I deleted the history page as it is a joke right now. There is no mention of any surgeries done by the greeks, or the Indians in the BC era. Furthermore, the two sentences do not constitute creating an independent heading... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.182.99.166 (talk) 22:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree with the user "Zartus", about deleting the name of Gazi Yasargil. Somebody deleted his name again. This is vandalism. Currently I undid this change, but probably it will be deleted again by some people who have inferiority complex.

An advice to them please look at the abstract of the article on http://journals.lww.com/neurosurgery/pages/articleviewer.aspx?year=1999&issue=11000&article=00010&type=abstract

And an advice to the moderators, please make this article semi-protected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.54.71.130 (talk) 00:03, 23 November 2010 (UTC)