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Infobox fix[edit]

I am not sure if this is what it is supposed to be:

[[{{{area_magnitude}}}_m²|42.7 km²]] Population (2006) 14 million (estimate) Population National Capital Region = 20 million area_magnitude=1 E9

Density {{{population_density}}}/km²

This appears in the box at the beginning giving the statistical information. It needs to be fixed. -Wayfarer247 May 14, 2005

Pronunciation[edit]

Somebody should add the pronounciation of delhi as (delli), can any body put that up ? --Girish 13:09, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)

When did building begin?[edit]

Resolved: Requested info added to article

This article is a bit confusing:

...built from 1912 to become the new capital of British India, eventually replacing Calcutta on February 10, 1911.

When did the building begin? Did the British establish the city after already making it the capital of British India? I think there must be a typo here -- maybe 1912 should be 1902? -- Tlotoxl 11:32, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Fixed. - Patrick 12:11, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Disambiguation[edit]

As I said on Talk:Delhi, could someone sort out the precise differences between Delhi (the city, not the union territory) and New Delhi and make them clear in the entries? -- till we *) 12:18, Aug 21, 2003 (UTC)

  • I think New Delhi does deserve an article. with more importance on the natinal administrative functions and the delhi page can be with a perspective on the city by and large. 203.94.241.97 10:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. There should be a relatively brief article on New Delhi that talks about its construction by the British and perhaps about the administrative Division between New Delhi Municipal Corporation (NDMC) and the Municipal Corporation of Delhi (MCD). All historical details should be put in the main [[Delhi] article. Anurag Garg 10:53, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Statehood[edit]

"Now there are plans afoot to give New Delhi complete statehood."

eh? Does this refer to Delhi NCR?, and if so it should be moved to the Delhi article. Imc 17:34, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, it refers to the Delhi NCT. I've removed it from here. -- Paddu 08:39, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Population[edit]

As of 2000, New Delhi's poulation is 11,680,000.

Completely inaccurate. That's the population of the Delhi metropolitan area. bob rulz 09:55, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)

POV fix[edit]

I've reverted to 217.231.13.99's version to get rid of the vandalism by 70.16.0.24. --JoshRaspberry 10:35, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism isn't the right word. But the addition by 70.16.0.24 was ungrammatical POV that didn't fit with conventional wikipedia formatting anyway. --JoshRaspberry 10:40, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Migrate the information

Partial merge proposal[edit]

I think that the information from the New Delhi page should be migrated to the Delhi page, then New Delhi should be about Imperial Delhi, designed by Lutyens, Center of Government etc. It seems to me that a lot of the links from the New Delhi page are redirected to Delhi anyway?

Crime[edit]

I believe the high crime rate of the city, in particular sex crimes, is worth a mention once the article is expanded.

_ _ _ Hello i do not agree with the stament above.New dheli is not that much of a sex city.

it is worth mention. Google it and see the number of searches!--59.182.44.79 06:10, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Material more suited for Delhi article[edit]

More stuff has crept into this article that properly belongs in the Delhi article (and mostly is there). Removing it from this article, and doing some tidy up. There is still material that may not be applicable here that I'm not sure about. In particular, should the 'Independent India and Autonomy' section also be moved to Delhi? Imc 20:35, 11 September 2005 (UTC) I think it should be. Alot can be told by the crime rate in a city/county. So, I agree one hundred percent. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.75.175.130 (talk) 17:11, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup tags[edit]

{{expand}}

{{cleanup-date|October 2005}}

(tags moved from the main page; I don't disagree with them, but it's not obvious to me what particular shortcomings the article has, and the talk page is the best place to discuss that Enchanter 22:00, 24 November 2005 (UTC))

Actually, the tags do belong on the main page--discussions for what can be improved can be put on the talk page. Thanks! Doesn't matter either way, the article is a lot better now. Tamarkot 21:43, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Infobox cleanup[edit]

The infobox is a bit unclear when it comes to area, population and density. Could someone clean it up?

Languages[edit]

Hindi is the official language of Delhi. Both Punjabi and Urdu are second official languages of Delhi. That's why there are three languages listed in the introduction. Apart from English, no other language has official status in Delhi, so please don't add them. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 19:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Marathi is only official language in Maharashtra.Still Hindi is (unfortunately) wide spoken here.So i look ur gesture as demeaning the other languages of India. I also wonder why Punjabi is official language inDelhi why so?If Punjabi can be why isnt Marathi and Tamil?

Well, Punjabi is an official language of Delhi because a significant portion of the population is Punjabi. Also, historic Punjab used to border Delhi. I can't say Delhi has ever bordered Tamil Nadu :P Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 22:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, english does not enjoy the primary status even though we hightech gurus think that way! I just replaced english from the primary spot with hindi. I don't think there is any city in INDIA that has a english in the primary state. I though agree its very popular but we techies are in very low minority. thevikas (talk) 17:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Please read whole THE GOVERNMENT OF NATIONAL CAPITAL TERRITORY OF DELHI ACT, 1991. It clearly states that English and Hindi are only officially declared languages of Delhi. THE GOVERNMENT OF NATIONAL CAPITAL TERRITORY OF DELHI ACT, 1991 http://delhiassembly.nic.in/nctact.htm Bigsuperindia (talk) 19:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

External Links[edit]

Hi, I had put the link to Delhilive.com in the external links categories which was removed from the page. I beleive I added the link in the right category of the site consifering the fact that the site encoruages people to contribute and share information. Please let me know if someone thinks otherwise and why?

Pictures[edit]

Although the length and content of this article itself is dismissable, the photos on the page are also quite unpleasing to the eye. For example, some of them are blurry, the subject is covered in haze, and the skies are brown. I myself do not live in Delhi, and cannot take new pictures. However, if we can all try to improve the pictures it will make a big difference. Also, in addition to the map in the city infobox on the page, we can have some picture of New Delhi, or some seal or emblem or something. For example, if you look at the Taipei page it has a picture of a famous landmark, along with the seal, etc. of Taipei. -Vamooom 20:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Parliament[edit]

Does not the right to information act give indian citizens access to documents on Indian govt websites. Can we use this image instead of the one with the tree covering half of it?

http://www.parliamentofindia.nic.in/ls/intro/ataglance.htm

Copyvios[edit]

It seems that some copyvios are being made inadvertently by user:Nikkul. He added the text: "Delhi is a cosmopolitan city due to the multi-ethnic and multi-cultural presence of the vast Indian bureaucracy and political system, and expanding economy. There are more than 160 embassies and an ever-growing expatriate population." This is a direct cut and paste from the website: World Wind Energy. Please do not cut and paste. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Scope of this article[edit]

It is very important that editors understand the scope of this article before adding material to it. The article is on the district of New Delhi which is the seat of the GoI and not of the entire metropolis of Delhi. Please discuss. --Lokantha 06:20, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Parallel[edit]

"the Sansad Marg, which runs parallel to the Rajpath."

I don't think it does, actually. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bitbut (talkcontribs) 00:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Why is Delhi called NEW Delhi?[edit]

Why is it called NEW Delhi

New York was named after York in England

New Jersey was named after Jersey Island in the English Channel

New Delhi named afer Delhi in?????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

It's named after Delhi in India. --Doradus (talk) 13:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Placement of map[edit]

Page appearance before the edit.
Page appearance after the edit. Note that the page text begins far below the images, and that the "New" from "New Delhi" is separated from the rest of the text.

A recent edit has moved an image in such a way as to disrupt the flow of the page at 800x600. What was the reason for moving it up? --Doradus (talk) 17:53, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

The reason for moving it up was to keep it from overflowing into the other section. Keep in mind that your view is large text and that it differs from the way most computers view the page. On my computer, as on most computers, the section formatting is perfect. Nikkul (talk) 18:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I had forgotten I was using nonstandard fonts. Sorry! On the left is the page after your edit, with a standard font size. I agree that having the images interfere with other sections is undesirable. --Doradus (talk) 18:31, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Page appearance after the edit with small fonts. The text is squeezed between the images.

I still dont think thats standard way the site is viewed. Most computers have a different view than yours. Nikkul (talk) 05:33, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

New Delhi map.svg
Shouldnt the article be having the street map? -- PlaneMad|YakYak 09:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:INDIA Banner/Delhi Addition[edit]

Note: {{WP India}} Project Banner with Delhi workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under Category:Delhi or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article -- Amartyabag TALK2ME 05:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Change NCT to Delhi[edit]

"NCT" is not nearly as widely known as "Delhi", and the latter causes no ambiguities I'm aware of. In fact, National Capital Territory of Delhi is nothing but a redirect to Delhi. I propose that we simply use "Delhi" uniformly throughout this article. --Doradus (talk) 23:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Coordinates[edit]

Hi. The coordinates in the infobox are wrong (they point to a place in Old Delhi, but not sure how to correct it. 28°36′49.7″N 77°12′31.8″E / 28.613806°N 77.208833°E / 28.613806; 77.208833 would be a better pointer, in the middle of New Delhi. --Soman (talk) 14:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

fixed now, --Soman (talk) 19:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

New Delhi as both a Municipal Corporation & District[edit]

It should probably be made note of somewhere in the open paragraph that unlike the other municipal corporations in the National Capital Territory (Delhi and Delhi Cantonment) that New Delhi District and New Delhi Municipal Corporation are coterminous (share the exact same borders). This is correct, right? If so, it's definitely worth noting. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Article improvements[edit]

There is no HDI value, no crime rates, nothing, what a bullshit article. Look at other cities' articles for some ideas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.64.76.69 (talk) 18:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

If you think that the article is missing something, why not try to improve the article rather than ranting how bad it is. Also, not all cities have an HDI value. Here are some major cities that don't have an HDI value: New York City, Paris, London, Tokyo, and Cairo. Except NYC, I didn't see anything about crimes rates in those cities either. --Elockid (talk) 18:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

plz include[edit]

All major events held in delhi nation, international elct —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.143.92.115 (talk) 10:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

To Do[edit]

capital of India[edit]

I could not find a provision in the constitution or a law nor a presidental decree making New Delhi the capital. As I see it, the capital is Delhi and all supreme institutions of the republic (president, parlament, prime minster, supreme court) happen to be in New Delhi, which is just a central part of Delhi.

Please give any evidence if I'm wrong. --85.178.72.152 (talk) 18:46, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but your supposition is incorrect. New Delhi is the capital of India, as you can verify from any number of sources (example, [1], [2]). While it would be interesting to figure out which act of the parliament, or administrative action, made it the capital, such questions are best asked at wikipedia's reference desk. Abecedare (talk) 19:09, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

The other side of Delhi - New Delhi Railway Station - street children[edit]

i wonder if the section is about New Delhi or poverty of Bhihar and UP. When people of Bhihar and UP are not concerned of their children then how should they expect that people of Delhi will help them. The section only claims that it is Delhi Govt's responsibility to help them. I think someone, who has written this section, does't know that many NGO's are working for these people(from other states). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Swaminworld (talkcontribs) 22:30, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

The section as is doesn't belong in here and I have removed it. Neutrally worded issues sourced to reliable sources are welcome, but this was soapboxing from one NGO - Salaam Balak Trust. –SpacemanSpiff 22:42, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Proposal to merge in Delhi[edit]

I just came across Delhi & New Delhi articles, as far as I know both have same information and means same city so why two different articles for the same? Can someone please clarify why isn't New Delhi merged into Delhi article? Cr!mson K!ng (talk) 19:13, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

This is for the fact that Delhi is a union territory and one of several metropolitan cities like Mumbai, Chennai etc. New Delhi is capital of India and hence qualifies to have separate article. Delhi is not capital of India and hence deserves separate article just like Pondicherry. --Onef9day (talk) 17:45, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

They are two distinct cities. Old Delhi has a rich history and is a distinct city, it has irregular streets amongst other things. New Delhi was formed in 1911 as a separate city when they switched the capital of india from Kolkota Oppose Profitoftruth85 (talk) 21:13, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Your confusion is understandable. Perhaps this map may make things clearer. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 09:49, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Map showing the nine districts of Delhi
Strong Oppose:New Delhi is one of the nine districts of Delhi. It is the capital city of India and the article should not be merged into Delhi. There must exist a seperate article for New Delhi. The difference between this article and the article Delhi is that New Delhi encompasses only the India Gate, The Secretariat and other Government offices. Whereas, Delhi has Red Fort, Qutub Minar and several other monuments. However the article has to be corrected a bit as Akshardham and Humayun's tomb are not located within New Delhi I guess, but their images are used in the article. WorLD8115(TalK) 14:54, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose. What??! Delhi is a state of India, while New Delhi is national capital city of India, which lies within the state. All together a BAD IDEA!!.. this should end with our short Geography lesson. By the way it is clearly explained in the intro to New Delhi, so posting such discussions merely wastes wiki time, so next time please taking time to at least READ first! Thanks! --Ekabhishektalk 18:10, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I think Delhi still is a union territory. There is a proposal by Govt of NCT to make Delhi a state in future. --Onef9day (talk) 09:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Delhi Montage[edit]

Delhi Montage.jpg

This article currently uses the image File:Delhi Montage.jpg, same as the Delhi article. But as New Delhi is just a small part of Delhi, the monuments in the image are not located in New Delhi. Lotus temple (Bahá'í House of Worship) is located in South Delhi, Humayun's Tomb is located at the confluence of Mathura Road and Lodi Road in South Delhi (correct me if I am wrong), Akshardham at the border of East Delhi and NOIDA. India Gate and Connaught Palace are the other two in the picture and are both located in New Delhi. New Delhi also includes Parliament of India, Rashtrapati Bhavan, Secretariat Building, Laxminarayan Temple, Safdarjung's Tomb, Lodi Gardens.

For the Tourist places in New Delhi Municipal Council (NDMC area) see this link. As, the photo cannot be used in this article, I searched for other Delhi montages and found, File:Delhi Montage 3.jpg, File:Delhi Montage New copy.jpg and File:Delhi Montage copy.jpg, neither of which is of New Delhi. The article is very similar to Delhi and needs changes from an expert. These are my thoughts and correct me if I am wrong. --WorLD8115(TalK) 13:26, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Montages are nice to have, but they aren't required or even necessary. Just find a good image of something that is in new Delhi, and use that. Something goverment-related would probably be good. In time, someone can put together a montage of actual New Delhi locations, and we can add it then. - BilCat (talk) 17:54, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
I didn't see this discussion, but this is the wrong one for this page, I only noticed it while editing the infobox today. We'll need to either get a different, "New Delhi only" montage or just use one of the good images of New Delhi monuments we have (I'll change once I find one of good quality as an interim step). —SpacemanSpiff 11:33, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

I think it is very important to have nice pictures of New Delhi in the montage because it shows the standard of the city, its infrastructure and culture. I have some nice pictures of New Delhi which I would like to upload here. Please let me know if you guys support updating images for Delhi and New Delhi. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amit7890 (talkcontribs) 03:20, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Airport[edit]

What does Indira Gandhi International Airport have to do with New Delhi? It might be appropriate to briefly mention that it is the airport serving the municipality, but, as it is not within the municipality, not in so much detail. Skinsmoke (talk) 18:35, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Population[edit]

Could someone clarify with an up-to-date reliable source just what exactly the population of New Dehli and the metropolitan area is? The lead section and the infobox were contradicting each other, and we have received complaints about the article's accuracy at WP:VRT. Thank you, Skomorokh 10:53, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

This is a problem of confusing the different entities of Delhi that crept into the article when no one noticed. "New Delhi" (India's capital) is part of "Delhi" (National Capital Territory, technically a city, but classified differently by the government) which is itself a part of the "Delhi Metropolitan Area". The correct population census figures are sourced in the section New_Delhi#Demographics, as per the 2001 census. However, as with many articles on cities, this one intermixes the census figures and the 2009/2010 estimates from World Gazetteer. In addition, the entities are often confused: "National Capital Territory" and "National Capital Region", the former includes only Delhi, while the latter includes other cities including NOIDA, Gurgaon, Faridabad, Ghaziabad or parts of them, based on the source. The number that you removed is probably from one of those definitions, but given that it wasn't sourced, it's hard to say, and doesn't belong. That said, this has also identified a bit of a problem with the metro population in the infobox. I'll change to this. —SpacemanSpiff 11:26, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for that, SS.; I can see where the confusion arises. I'm getting "18,916,890UNIQ455caa4,231a1ebe2-ref-00,000,006-QINU" as the infobox entry for metro population though – don't think it likes the reference tags. Skomorokh 12:10, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Sister cities[edit]

I don't think the whole Sister Cities section is properly backed by references. Someone just added Rome to the list, and I have reverted that. But the whole section is not properly cited. Can someone find refs? MakingTheMarkWassup doc? 07:04, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes yes.I'll from now gonna develop this article .Thank You.25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  07:39, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Bases of marking the disputed areas of indian Republic[edit]

I would like to know on what factual bases the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh has been fainted to represent as a disputed region in the Map of India on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Delhi page. mukundpadaki 09:11, 24 August 2011 (UTC)Wikipadaki

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Air Quality[edit]

Since the first citation [46] produced is a blog and the second citation [47] quotes the first citation as its source , Is it valid? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.72.100.85 (talk) 09:33, 11 February 2013 (UTC) ghfhgfhghghghhfhh fake one — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.98.94.132 (talk) 15:19, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Copy editing[edit]

3rd paragraph

In the middle of the first paragraph we read,

"New Delhi is situated within the metropolis of Delhi..."

In the third paragraph, we read:

"The metropolitan area is the largest in the country with a population of more than 21 million. The urban agglomeration is the 7th largest in the world with a population of 23 million people. The metropolis has the highest urban spread in the country." (italics mine)

In the third paragraph, it is not clear to what "urban agglomeration" refers. If "the metropolitan area" is New Delhi, and "the metropolis" (mentioned in the first paragraph) is Delhi, what is "the urban agglomeration? It is obviously larger than New Delhi. By "the urban agglomeration", did the writer mean Delhi? If so, I think this should be made clear. If not, it should be explained. Also, the final sentence, "The metropolis has the highest urban spread in the country" is a bit vague. It seems to refer to the geographical size of the city. Why not use words that make it clear this sentence is about geographical size, and not population?CorinneSD (talk) 23:27, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

CorinneSD (talk) 23:19, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Establishment

At the end of the second paragraph in the section headed "Establishment", we read the following sentence:

"Lutyens laid out the central administrative area of the city as a testament to Britain's imperial aspirations."

This sentence is a little vague. The phrase "laid out" is not clear. Does this mean "built", "designed", or "unveiled his design"? I think one of these phrases would be clearer. Then the sentence at the beginning of the following paragraph, "However, soon Lutyens started considering other places", would make more sense. CorinneSD (talk) 14:53, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

  • Should be "designed". —SpacemanSpiff 15:32, 21 September 2013 (UTC)


The last sentence of the third paragraph in this section headed "Establishment" is as follows:

"The Secretariat building, which houses various ministries of the Government of India, flanked out of the Rashtrapati Bhawan, and the Parliament House, both designed by Herbert Baker, is located at the Sansad Marg, which runs parallel to the Rajpath."

The phrase "flanked out of the Rashtrapati Bhawan" is not clear. It also breaks up the flow of the sentence and makes the sentence difficult to understand. If the information is important, perhaps someone could devise another way to express it. If it is not important, perhaps it should be deleted.CorinneSD (talk) 15:20, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

  • I'll explain the design, then you can decide on the words to use (it's sort of unique, so it may be important enough to include): There are two blocks to the Secretariat Building, New Delhi that sort of take over (after a gap) from the ends of the Rashtrapati Bhavan sort of like a guard house (which IMO is why the term flanked is used). —SpacemanSpiff 15:32, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation. I also found the following sentence near the beginning of the article on the Secretariat building (from the link you provided):
"Situated on Raisina Hill, New Delhi, the Secretariat buildings are two blocks of symmetrical buildings (North Block and South Block) on opposite sides of the great axis of Rajpath, and flanking the Rashtrapati Bhavan (President's House)."
I'm going to give the sentence some thought. By the way, what is "IMO"?CorinneSD (talk) 16:04, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
IMO = In my opinion. —SpacemanSpiff 17:18, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
What do you think of it now? I am particularly concerned with the last part of the sentence because it doesn't seem to match "on opposite sides of the great axis of Rajpath" in the sentence I quoted above from the article on the Secretariat building.CorinneSD (talk) 16:28, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
CorinneSD, perhaps this historical photograph will help explain the relative positions of the buildings:
  • The circular structure seen on the right is the Parliament House (Sansad Bhavan)
  • The two parallel buildings to its left are the North and South blocks of the secretariat
  • The road running between the two blocks is Rajpath, which leads to Rashtrapathi Bhavan, also seen in the photograph.
For comparison, here is a Google Map image of the area showing this buildings and Rajpath. Abecedare (talk) 01:25, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. The pictures are interesting. I will wait a few days before I work on the sentence; feel free to revise the sentence yourself in the meantime if you want to.CorinneSD (talk) 01:43, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


The second sentence in the third paragraph in the "Establishment" section reads as follows:

"However, it was rejected by the Viceroy when the cost of acquiring the necessary properties was found to be too high."

The antecedent for the pronoun "it" in "it was rejected" is not clear. To what does "it" refer? If it refers to the "reports" submitted by the committee in the previous sentence, it should read, "However, the reports were rejected" or "However, both reports were rejected". However, a few sentences later, the southern site was chosen for construction. So perhaps it should read, "Both reports were initially rejected". Any ideas?CorinneSD (talk) 16:17, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty to combine all these sections under the title of copy editing as it becomes difficult to respond to individual messages in multiple sections. Also, I think you may want to hold off for a bit now, I've just seen the article after many months and there are quite a few errors currently (e.g. the UNESCO sites are not in New Delhi and so on). It's probably going to be a burden on you to have these errors in the article while you're copy editing as it'll negate all that effort, so perhaps in a few days time? cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:18, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
O.K. That's fine.CorinneSD (talk) 17:49, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Montage[edit]

The montage has to go, once again non-New Delhi images are included. I'll try to find the old one and add that back. —SpacemanSpiff 17:18, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

For reference, the map of New Delhi is this. Anything outside this area is not part of New Delhi. —SpacemanSpiff 17:38, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Errors in the article[edit]

At present there's way too much info in the article related to Delhi that is passed of as stuff related to New Delhi. At this point I'm not sure whether to remove the errors individually or to scrap sections entirely and rewrite them. I'm creating the list below to arrive at that decision -- feel free to add to the list (and if possible sign with three tildes (~~~) so that we know that the information has been verified to not belong here. Also pinging some of the regular editors of this page: @User:Dwaipayanc, User:Redtigerxyz, User:Bill william compton, User:Abecedare, User:RegentsPark, User:Fowler&fowler, User:Elockid. cheers, —SpacemanSpiff 18:23, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

List of errors
  1. Infobox montage: All images except India Gate and CP(added after comment below) are outside New Delhi —SpacemanSpiff
    Are you sure Connaught Place is not under the jurisdiction of New Delhi Municipal Council? I'll try to create a new montage. If anyone has any suggestions for possible images, I am all ears. — Bill william comptonTalk 19:28, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
    Meh, sorry, I didn't see the CP image, I'll add that to the above exception.—SpacemanSpiff 19:39, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
    File:New Delhi montage.png How does it look? — Bill william comptonTalk 20:17, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
    Looks good, if anyone has any changes we can do that later, at the least this one only includes New Delhi and that's more important right now. I've added it to the article. —SpacemanSpiff 04:34, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
  2. Lede: Nine/eleven districts issue needs explanation so it's probably best left out of the lede; centre of the govt of NCT isn't entirely right as it's a bit more nuanced -- the Secretariat is in IP estate, but legislature and Lt Govs offices are in Civil Lines; UNESCO World Heritage sites aren't in ND; I can't see the ref, but it's a stretch to say that ND is a microcosm of India, Delhi perhaps, but not ND surely; does peripheral size info on NCT and NCR belong in the lede? —SpacemanSpiff
  3. Infobox stats: CM/Lt Gov etc doesn't belong here as the territory they cover encompasses this; it should be NDMC officials if I'm not mistaken such as Mumbai where BMC officials are included or Chennai where Chennai corp officials are included; pincodes are fewer than the xxx set which belongs to Delhi -- as far as I know there are only four numbers and even one of those is not entirely that of ND; metro population shouldn't feature in the infobox; the city doesn't have any different official languages from NCT, so Urdu should be added too. —SpacemanSpiff
  4. Images everywhere: Most are Delhi related and very few actually New Delhi related. —SpacemanSpiff


  • Also, newspapers, whether Hindustan Times or Wall Street Journals are not reliable sources for the history of Delhi. I have cleaned up the lead. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 19:10, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
    • I believe I have the first day cancellation of the six NDH stamps released in 1931. Will look for them and post them if I find them. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 19:18, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, this article certainly needs de-fluffing eg, my culling yesterday based on cursory reading of just two sections [3] [4], [5] (see edit-summaries for reasoning). A related article to look at: History of Delhi, which seems to make contradictory, or at least confusing, claims about Delhi's identification with Indraprastha etc. Abecedare (talk) 01:08, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Possible images for consideration[edit]

Feel free to add sections and list images. —SpacemanSpiff 19:44, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Maps

File:New_Delhi_map.svg - Map of New Delhi

Inaugural stamps
First day (or is it second day) cancellation of six stamps issued to mark inauguration of New Delhi.

Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:50, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Climate[edit]

I have a question about the section on "Climate" in the larger section on "Geography". I noticed that there was a comment for editors at the beginning of the "Geography" section that is visible only in Edit mode:

"The section should provide data only from the New Delhi area under NDMC. Not of the entire NCT."

I'm sorry, but I don't know what "NCT" is, but if it means the Delhi metropolis, then I wonder if the second-to-last sentence in the section on "Climate" should be there. It gives the high and low temperature extremes for Delhi metropolis. – CorinneSD (talk) 19:19, 27 November 2013 (UTC)