Talk:New Girl

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  (Redirected from Talk:New Girl (TV series))
Jump to: navigation, search
          This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
WikiProject Television (Rated B-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Television, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of television on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
B-Class article B  This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale.
 ???  This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject California / Los Angeles (Rated B-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject California, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of California on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
B-Class article B  This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale.
 ???  This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by the Los Angeles task force.
 
WikiProject Comedy (Rated B-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Comedy, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of comedy on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
B-Class article B  This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 

(The?) New Girl[edit]

Every promotional material is referreing to this TV show as "New Girl". Why has this article been called "The New Girl"? Slasher-fun (talk) 20:13, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

It was announced as The New Girl (see the references), but it's currently on Fox's website as New Girl (working title). I'll move it for now, title may still change though, but we can move it again if that's the case. Xeworlebi (talk) 20:29, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Which is it?[edit]

Is it Jake Johnson or Jake M. Johnson? Cleo20 (talk) 15:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Explanation[edit]

can someone explain why coach returns from somewhere if he was already there in the pilot episode? it's really confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.163.214.58 (talk) 20:42, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

It's less confusing if you notice that it is two different black guys. Both in term of character and actors. :rolleyes: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.8.171.79 (talk) 15:44, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Single-camera?[edit]

This show is not single-camera. not sure how to change the infobox.Moss Ryder (talk) 02:33, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Fixed. HiLo48 (talk) 04:31, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Are you sure it's not? Everything I've read said it is. And it looks just like the other single-cams on TV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rurry007 (talkcontribs) 07:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

"Critics" section[edit]

The critics section has a lot of grammar issues and also doesn't really cite its sources... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rurry007 (talkcontribs) 07:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

I have to agree with you. The recent mass additions to the article (including the "Critics" section you mention, the Plot, and parts of Production) are very poorly written. Grammar and punctuation issues, lack of sources, lots of vague statements, etc. I have removed some unsourced material, but there is more to be done. Apparently, this page appears to be some sort of "group assignment". --Logical Fuzz (talk) 21:56, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
I have done a fairly extensive edit to this article, hopefully now it makes more sense. Some of the details under production were not even accurately representing what the referenced articles were saying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.171.180.232 (talk) 22:54, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Schmidt deserves his own page[edit]

I think of all the characters on the show, Schmidt has become the most evolved. He has gone beyond the series, even having his own dating service video on YouTube, and his book "The Douche Journals" was published before the season premiere. - Jasonbres (talk) 16:15, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Character name[edit]

Cece's full name was revealed to be Cecelia Park in "Table 34" (season 2: episode 16), but from the beginning of the series, it has been Cece Meyers. Should it be changed? -- CollisionCourse (talk) 08:52, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Racism?[edit]

Even if the series happens in one of the largest latino (hispanic) cities in the world (the largest one outside Latin America or Spain), there are no latino characters. Racism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.195.117.70 (talk) 17:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Implicit racism, sure. It's hardly unique to New Girl, though. I don't have a source offhand, but I've read about how Law & Order portrays a much whiter New York than the real one. --BDD (talk) 16:48, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

International broadcast section[edit]

I am going to remove the international broadcast section, last included here. It seems the show airs almost everywhere now, so the list in itself is nothing special (lacking noteworthiness). The list overwhelms the article (editoriability). How I Met Your Mother doesn't have such a list either, probably for the same reasons (see talk page). I personally don't mind mentioning some English-speaking countries, but IMO the (full) list has to go. – sgeureka tc 11:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Major article expansion ahead[edit]

Season 3 is about to start, so I expect this article to get more interest from readers soon, possibly from editors as well. I have started collecting masses of information in my userspace in order to expand this article significantly. However, I am about to go on vacation without internet access and will work offline on the article instead. Just for everyone's information so that we can avoid duplicate or lost work. – sgeureka tc 14:40, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

For everyone's info, here's the link I found. User:Sgeureka/New Girl––Ɔ ☎ ℡ ☎ 20:17, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Inclusion of Wayans/Coach in the Main cast list[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

It's not entirely clear how the article should treat Damon Wayans Jr.'s appearances in New Girl. Technically speaking (which is usually pivotal for me), he is not in the main cast and hence shouldn't be listed in the Main cast section. However, it's entirely likely he'll appear in even more episodes this season than main cast actress Hannah Simone (Cece), and there is more media coverage about Wayans than I could ever find for Simone. As long as it's made clear that Wayans is technically not part of the main cast (in parentheses), I propose to include him in the main cast section. This is more educational for the reader than just listing him with the usual ten-word blurb in the Recurring cast section. – sgeureka tc 17:49, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

  • Support inclusion in main as nominator. – sgeureka tc 17:49, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
  • No comments disagreeing after two months, so I guess this is a non-issue. Closing.sgeureka tc 14:45, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Split[edit]

creation Even with the spun-off character list, the article is currently 115 kB, of which 46 kB are "readable prose size". Per WP:TOOBIG, the article is near "> 50 kB: May need to be divided (likelihood goes up with size)". The likeliest spin-off subjects are Nick and Jess (their section already overwhelms the article, but as the most discussed topic by media outlets, this is not surprising) and the Awards table. I am in no hurry to split both them off right now, but with the show very likely to be renewed for a fourth season soon, I want to ask others for input what should be done (agreement, opposion, or other ideas). – sgeureka tc 11:39, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I agree it should be split. A new page for "Nick and Jess" or just for the entire "relationships" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.172.27 (talk) 17:25, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Theme song[edit]

I think the seven(?) bar theme song (which is often truncated further) is unusual enough to merit a little discussion in the article. I'm guessing it was supposed to be one of Jess's dorky improvised songs, with a background that she's fantasized involving her roommates--but while the producers might know, I'm just speculating. I can't remember whether Wayans appears in the theme to the pilot, but that might be worth noting too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.114.96 (talk) 16:00, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Plagiarism[edit]

Is this significant amount to be included into the New Girl article? In which these sources say that the creators of New Girl had blatantly ripped off from the show Square One, as they proclaimed. The creators of Square One, Stephanie Counts and Shari Gold, claimed that there are "so numerous and specific that the independent creation was obviously impossible."

Sources:

panicpack121 16:49, 26 February 2014

There needs to be a subheading based on the entire plagiarism case. It should specifically be mentioned that the plaintiffs were offered money to settle out of court. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.144.32.73 (talk) 16:13, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
At this time, the article gives this topic two sentences, but I feel a subheading might give this lawsuit WP:UNDUE weight. This was big news for a week in January, and we haven't heard anything since then. It's entirely possible the thing will be settled out of court and we'll never hear about it again. As overwhelming the evidence might appear at first, the only real headscratcher (IIRC) is that Spencer thing; the rest looks like a fringe theorist illustrating patterns. Also, the law firm appears to be really minor, so I doubt any real weight behind it. – sgeureka tc 09:41, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

If it's settled out of court, it'll be mentioned in due course. I'm pretty sure of that. I support a subheading.

Move request[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. We have consensus that this is the primary topic of the term "New Girl". Cúchullain t/c 23:40, 14 April 2014 (UTC)



New Girl (TV series)New Girl – The TV show is clearly the primary topic here. The TV series has received 235,186 views in the past 30 days, compared to 897 for The_New_Girl_(Haven) and 838 for The_New_Girl_(novel) (the other topics listed at the New Girl disambiguation page that have an associated article page). This is not to mention that the other articles contain "The" in their names, whereas the article for the TV series does not. Fearstreetsaga (talk) 03:26, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

  • Oppose too generic despite the relatively small number of songs and other subjects in this case. It is a TV series. And New Girl Now needs adding to dab. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:28, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Is the song commonly referred to only as "New Girl"? If not, it's a partial title match and should go in the See also section. --BDD (talk) 17:35, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Alternatively it can go after the three songs called "New Girl". In ictu oculi (talk) 15:45, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Support Huh, I didn't really expect to, but this does seem to be a primary topic, based on our coverage. --BDD (talk) 17:35, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Support The show is more of a primary topic for the title than any of the other articles on the dab page. Per BDD, most of the other articles are partial title matches anyway. --TorriTorri(talk/contribs) 10:59, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Plans for the article[edit]

Now that the New Girl TV season is over, here's what I plan to do with the article in the upcoming weeks:

  • I have enough secondary information to start sections about costume&make-up and the opening titles.
  • The loft dynamics section is terribly outdated with the Coach developments and room-shuffling.
  • The media interest in Nick&Jess seems as strong as ever, regardless of if they're a couple or not, so it's seems sensible and necessary to spin out their section like planned.
  • The reception section is too long. There is too much info about the pilot. Some stuff on Nick&Jess can be moved to their subarticle in the future. Maybe Schmidt or Schmidt&Cece need their own subarticle as well? (I am not sure.) Anyway, I hope to find and use more reviews that focus on whole seasons instead of single episodes.
  • I don't know how smart it was too combine "Broadcast and ratings". I may split it again, maybe.

If anyone else has suggestions or concerns, let me know. – sgeureka tc 13:05, 7 May 2014 (UTC)