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Fight Song[edit]

In my opinion as a lifelong saints fan, the song "Halftime" by the Ying Yang Twins needs to be added under fight songs. It was played after every single Saints touchdown of the 2009 season and was acknowledged for it's ubiquity by several news outlets. See here: [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jstern1 (talkcontribs) 03:03, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Mueller firing[edit]

You may want to mention Randy Mueller's reason for being fired: "After winning the 2000 NFL Executive of the Year Award, General Manager Randy Mueller was fired between the 2001 and 2002 seasons without explanation by Benson. Benson claimed it was Mueller's poor communication, but rumors tied Mueller's firing to his paying $50,000 out of the Saints funds to a Saintsation cheerleader having an affair with Jim Haslett to keep quiet without Benson's approval." That might be a little wordy, but I couldn't shorten it any more. Kenny Wilkerson, WWL radio reporter, reported that both Mueller and Haslett had affairs with Saintsations, and after Haslett's girlfriend became pregnant, Mueller paid her $50,000 to be quiet. When Benson found out about it, he got mad and fired Mueller, claiming "poor communication." Wilkerson was soon after denied access to the Saints. Jbalfantz (talk) 09:51, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


Saints Win![edit]

Quick, someone change it to say that the Saints won and that they're going to their first Superbowl! 96.228.203.55 (talk) 03:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Someone should edit it to suggest that they were the beneficiaries of several blown calls by the referees in the game. ESPN's NFL Live has documented four plays in overtime alone that were blown by the officials, including the crucial pass interference penalty and the spot of the ball on fourth down. The NFC title game was tainted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.215.196.246 (talk) 09:15, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

CHANGE[edit]

More should be added on Bum Phillips reign as coach. Mascots such as 'Gumbo' the dog, Sir Saint, Moses and the Saintsations cheerleaders are quite notable. This team is full of color because of these characters and the teams losing posture.

POV[edit]

"Many believe the success of the 2000 season was the result of first year General Manager Randy Meuller's leadership, as" removed from franchise history, as it's POV and uncited. Mueller was misspelled anyway. 207.191.23.54 02:32, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Improvement drive[edit]

National Football League is currently a candidate on WP:IDRIVE. Vote for it if you are interested in contributing.--Fenice 20:03, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Listing Giants Stadium as a former home stadium in the infobox[edit]

In my opinion, one-use sites should be regarded as "misc. use" and not officially home fields. That's what is listed on one of my primary references: Total Football: The Official Encyclopedia of the National Football League (ISBN 0062701746). Thus, I have not entered one-use sites in the "Home fields" list on the infobox and rather listed them seperately in their relevant articles. For example:

Zzyzx11 (Talk) 23:24, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

  • This is all well and good, but it doesn't make it correct to say that the Alamodome was the home stadium for half of the season. 3/8 is not half! I am pretty sure there is no wikipedia policy that advocates incorrect math to conform to a loose precedant about listing home stadiums. Besides, there's nothing wrong with correctly stating the number of games they played there and the number of games they played in Tiger stadium, even if they don't add up to 8, because the truth is they only had 7 "home" games.Wbbigtymer 05:51, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Along those same lines, I think it's a lot better to say that Tiger stadium was their home stadium for 4 games, instead of half of the season. Half of the season may be technically correct, but I think 4 games would be a lot more clear. Also, it's consistant with the 3 game listing for the Alamo Dome above. Jean15paul 19:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Gary Gibbs[edit]

Just letting you Saints fans know that I created an article for Gary Gibbs. Its a stub now so feel free to expand it.--NMajdantalk 13:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Strange Redirect[edit]

'Houston Oilers' redirects to the New Orleans Saints for some reason. If anything, shouldn't it go to the Tennessee Titans?

You're right. It should. I've never heard of any association between the Houston Oilers and the Saints. Must be a mistake. Ziggy55 (talk) 04:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Drew Brees[edit]

Drew Brees is the best ever... the BEST!!! CzarNick~~

No, that would be Joe Montana —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.118.213.53 (talk) 14:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Saints Season[edit]

There is only one word to describe how awesome the Saints are. . . and that is the word WOW! I mean, how surprising was it that a team wiped by Hurricane Katrina and ended up with a 3-13 record, to this year, coming from a VERY sad NFC, to becoming a first round bye in the playoffs as a second seat with a 10-6 record. WOW! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.156.96.53 (talk) 19:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC).

Sean Payton[edit]

He is the reason behind all the change. He brought together a "team" for the first time in Saints history and will improve year after year in bringing together the most capable, intelligent, conditioned, prepared players in the NFL. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.183.116.27 (talk) 09:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC).

First time the Saints had a team put together? I suggest reading Jim E. Mora. Carface 19:52, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Championship[edit]

I'm confused. Was the Saints/Bears game a championship game or not? Why does the entry still say that the Saints have never played in a championship? Ean 15:41, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

The Saints/Bears game was a conference championship game. The article is referring to an NFL championship game, meaning a championship over the entire league, not just a conference. --Boznia 17:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but technically the NFC Championship of today is the equivolent of the NFL Championship before the NFL/AFL merger. Just as the AFC Championship is the same as the old AFL Championship game. The only difference being that the winners of those two games now go on to play in the Super Bowl. If the Saints and Jaguars are listed as never playing in a championship game despite making it to their respective conference championship games, then the Cardinals, Browns, and Lions should be listed as well because their championship games came prior to the NFL/AFL merger. - Mike 8:18, 05 March 2007 (UTC)

The sentence in question includes this link (NFL Championship) to explain what is meant by an NFL Championship. Also, the NFC Championship does not equal the NFL Championship prior to the merger. Starting with Super Bowl V, the Super Bowl has been the NFL Championship. Check out the Kansas City Chiefs, the Oakland Raiders, or any other team with an AFL championship. The AFL titles are listed as league titles alongside Super Bowl titles, just like pre-merger NFL Titles are listed as league titles alongside Super Bowl titles with teams such as the Washington Redskins or the New York Giants. Boznia 08:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

This page switches tenses often, especially around the area surrounding the 2006 season. Speaking of which, that section could use a major overhaul. There needs to be more talk of the season itself. Tom Agnew 03:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

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List of New Orleans Saints first-round draft picks needs feedback[edit]

It is currently a FLC but at the moment doesn't have enough supports votes to pass. Buc (talk) 21:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Overtime?[edit]

In the Records vs. Opponents section, should it be noted the the last Chicago game went to overtime by adding an OT to the score box, or just leave it as a simple loss? Fred8615 (talk) 18:26, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

OT is precise. Robin.kuylen (talk) 20:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Saints HOF[edit]

Morten Anderson will be the 2009 inductee. Should he be added now, or wait until it's official on Nov. 6th? Fred8615 (talk) 13:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Nicknames[edit]

I believe the Aints should be a part of the teams nicknames because of the history of that term, wether if it's negative or not, has been apart of this team since the 80's and has been discussed in NFL specials ect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Balooza (talkcontribs) 01:39, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I disagree. It is not a name used by the fans, it's ONLY used by those seeking to disparage or insult the team and/or their fans. I doubt any of the other teams have, nor would the editors allow insulting nicknames in their articles. Fred8615 (talk) 17:29, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Editors allow insulting names in their articles all the time. If there's legitimate coverage of it, bring the references and put it in the article. If there aren't, don't. — Bdb484 (talk) 17:48, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
As an "offical" nickname I don't think it belongs. Mentioning it in the article itself is okay. But it keeps getting put in the nicknames list in the info box, and I don't think it belongs there. Fred8615 (talk) 21:08, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
the "Who dat" slogan is unexplained in this website and a larger part of the Saints lore and so should be covered...I guess it is a part of Cajun slang but dont know - sammy bowe 69.121.221.97 (talk) 11:16, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Lead section is too big[edit]

Really most of the last three paragraphs should be moved/merged to history. A bit about the founding and a bit about the 2009 championship are probably OK in the lead, but at present there's a ton of detail that belongs farther down in the article. I don't want to make a major edit in a heavily trafficked article without some consensus though. - Regards, PhilipR (talk) 03:21, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

See WP:LEAD#Length for such guidelines about length. I currently see no problem with the first 2 1/2 paragraphs, but the last paragraph is too much recentism, IMO, and could be trimmed to one or two sentences. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:25, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Fight Song?[edit]

Are you sure 'When the Saints Come Marching In' is the fight song? When the team was introduced before the game, the p.a. played 'Sirius' by the Alan Parsons Project. Elwin Blaine Coldiron (talk) 00:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

"Aints"[edit]

Seriously, by not including this nickname you are ignoring an enormous part of the team's history. Just because they have won ONE Super Bowl title doesn't erase all those miserable years of losing, not to mention all the NFL Films footage of fans wearing "Aints" bags or shirts and signs in the crowd. If Wikipedia wants to chronicle history or information, it should include this nickname. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.27.37.186 (talk) 21:38, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

It's in there, check out the "Early history" section with the paragraph that begins with "In 1980, the Saints lost their first 14 games". Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:02, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Current Season[edit]

When I click on "current season" I am directed to the 2009 season instead of the 2010 season. This needs to be fixed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.179.70.119 (talk) 23:53, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Eagles 24/7 (C) 23:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Within a Week[edit]

"To seal the merger, Rozelle arrived in New Orleans within a week, and announced on November 1, 1966 that the NFL officially had awarded the city of New Orleans an NFL franchise."

Within a week of what? GeneCallahan (talk) 01:28, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Bears Rivalry[edit]

The section on "the Bears rivalry" is pretty biased and does not meet the standards for an objective encyclopedia. It needs to be edited or removed entirely since the Bears-Saints rivalry doesn't really exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.206.109.221 (talk) 23:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Saints/Buccaneers Rivalry[edit]

The rivalry between the 2 teams is starting to heat up. They have play a lot of games and it is varied enough that I think there should be a seperate page on the rivalvy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.197.23.199 (talk) 00:42, 24 February 2012 (UTC)