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[edit] Jackie Robinson's retired number

As Robinson's retired number has been changed (it basically looks the same as the other numbers now, but without pinstripes), the graphic on the page should probably be updated. Thoughts? Brad E. Williams (talk) 14:16, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. The current logo on the page reads "2007." Whatever it looks like in Monument Park, it shouid look like on here. Kjscotte34 (talk) 16:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

[edit] 1994 Strike/Comments

Reading the section 1982-1995 era of Mattingly, there are several mentions that 1994 is one of the worst years of New York sports history and I must take exception to that claim. I realize that the comments are sourced, but in 1994 the New York Rangers won the Stanley Cup -- ending a 54 year drought and elating an otherwise very depressed New York City. During the early 90s, the Rangers were very competitive and very popular in town. Furthermore, as the Rangers were going after the cup that year, the NY Knicks were on the brink of winning the NBA finals. While the Rangers won their league's championship, the Knicks fell short at the end. Regardless, the Knicks going on their run at the same time as the Rangers was a very very exciting time, and June was a wild and spectacular month for New York sports for these reasons.

I only mention this because I think to say it was the worst year for NY sports is at the least very misleading (I'd go as far as saying completely wrong). It could have been the worst year for NY Yankees sports history or baseball sports history, but the Rangers winning the championship that year really gave a huge morale boost to the city in a time where happiness was almost non-existent. I propose rephrasing those clauses to clarify those claims because as a life long New Yorker, I know that wasn't true. -Novaprospekt (talk) 02:01, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Well put. However, there has been one user who consistently tries to reinsert edits along these lines into the article. Tjrover (talk) 02:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Yankees Suck Image in Criticism Section

This is completely inappropriate for this article and should be deleted. If nothing else, there are no sources, nevermind reliable sources to back up what is said. On that note, do we have these same sections in other articles, or is this a case of someone who's not a fan of the team with an agenda? Oh wait- I should be assuming good faith. Source it, reliably, and not with something from a Red Sox blogger. Kjscotte34 (talk) 11:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the picture is completely unnecessary, but the criticism section seems to me as though it should stay. The Yankees are one of the most universally hated teams in the four major sports in the US. I think it does a good job mentioning the very high payroll and free agent signings as the main reason. The fact is, whether it's because you live in Boston and they are your arch rival, you live in Maryland and you believe they stole the 96' ALCS with fan interference (like myself, ha) or you're just a sourpuss and hate them because they have so many championships (which I believe is the second biggest reason), there are a lot of Yankee haters out there, and I think it deserves to be talked about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikist4 (talkcontribs) 23:25, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] It's Wrong to criticize

I completly agree with Kjscotte34 and that is wrong to criticize on one of the articals. Seankuhn (talk) 18:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Most Successful Team in North America

In this article, it states that the Yankees are the most successful professional sports team in North America with 27 World Series titles. However, according to Wikipedia,Club Deportivo Saprissa (A soccer team in Costa Rica) has won 29 titles, making them the most successful team in North America. DanTheMan28 (talk) 21:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, but... it's Costa Rican soccer. I'm not sure what sort of importance we should give that.--Muboshgu (talk) 18:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Costa Rica is not in north america but is located in South America

Seankuhn
Please consult a map, or at least the wiki article.--Muboshgu (talk) 18:07, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
From the standpoint of continents, Costa Rica is in North America. There is no continent of Central America, that's a geographic "region". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:12, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
okay thank you for the help i was trying to figure out how to use wikipedia Seankuhn (talk) 18:21, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

This is not a forum for general discussion of New York Yankees. Any such comments may be deleted or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about New York Yankees at the Reference desk, discuss relevant Wikipedia policy at the Village pump, or ask for help at the Help desk Wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seankuhn (talkcontribs) 18:22, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

We only remove comments that are forum-based (either "Yankees suck!" or "Yankees rule!") and not relating to the discussion. In this case, which continent Costa Rica is a part of is relevant, and refactoring of legitimate talk page comments is a no no. All talk comments are forever in the public record, except for those that are intended to be destructive. --Muboshgu (talk) 18:28, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

well this is creating a big fightso will you delet this please this is all it is doingSeankuhn (talk) 18:41, 17 July 2010 (UTC) please look at the Please do not bite the newcomers page Seankuhn (talk) 18:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

This thread will not be deleted. And you said you'd been here two years on your user page. --Muboshgu (talk) 18:48, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

yes but this the second time i edited something ever Seankuhn (talk) 23:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Yankees SUCK! They aren't the most successful team in ANY sport in North America, because 1) they don't have 14 consecutive division titles, 2) they don't have players with the most homeruns (755), most no-hitters (7), or even the most consecutive seasons with 30+ homeruns to start a career (11), and 3) they don't have the oldest park at all!

GO BOSTON!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.0.33.168 (talk) 05:24, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Nationality of Players

Given the fact that baseball is becoming an increasingly more international sport (i.e., more non-U.S. leagues in existence, more non-U.S. players in the MLB), the roster formatting on Wikipedia should probably be updated to reflect that. If you look at the formatting for other international sports (such as soccer), the player nationalities are indicated using flag icons. I think this would be a beneficial update to each of the major league rosters in the MLB, it would not be too difficult to implement and it would not clutter the information on the page. However, before such change a change is implemented, I thought it would be healthy to achieve at least some form of consensus on the talk page for each team. yuristache (talk) 01:10, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


[edit] jankees

Im from holland and yankees is jankees. In history. maybe u can write this in this page, yankees was orginal jankees a name in dutch. Sorry for my bad language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.80.69.29 (talk) 19:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request from Dgriff32, 22 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} I beleive Roger Maris should be added to the list of Yankee greats for the 61 season alone let alone his entire yankee career

Dgriff32 (talk) 14:48, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. IainUK talk 23:08, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia neutral? Please...

How the hell is Wikipedia neutral when the New York Yankees are the only MLB team with a "Criticism" section? Shouldn't every team have one then? I'm stating the obvious here. The masses are starting to realize what a joke this website really is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.89.214 (talk) 17:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

If you have another way to integrate the material, please suggest it. Debate the merits all you want, hatred of the Yankees is very real. Then again, I see there are no such sections on Dallas Cowboys or Duke Blue Devils. --Muboshgu (talk) 18:45, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
So add them to those articles. There's nothing NPOV about the section, since it accurately says that many fans of other teams dislike the Yankees and gives reasons those fans have - not presenting those reasons as facts why people should hate the Yankees. I'm removing both tags. PaulGS (talk) 02:51, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I must say, I have to agree with this. There are not many citations of it in this section, just one from a reliable source. Furthermore, I would say this smacks of WP:RECENTISM because just 50 years ago, LOVING the Yankees was "as American as apple pie." Arnabdas (talk) 16:51, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Red a Color

ValiantRed600 (talk) 01:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC)ValiantRed600 As we can clearly all see the Yankees Primary Logo is mainly red, except for the blue in the Yankee Hat, so how come when I put red in as a color of the Yankees, people deleted it, if there logo is mainly red. Also every other team's colors, match there logo, so I think we should consider Red a color of the New York Yankees,

File:NewYorkYankees_PrimaryLogo.svg —Preceding unsigned comment added by ValiantRed600 (talkcontribs) 19:01, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

There is red in the logo, but the logo isn't that commonly used. It's never been a color that's appeared on a uniform or anywhere else. --Muboshgu (talk) 19:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

ValiantRed600 (talk) 01:12, 8 October 2010 (UTC)ValiantRed600 What do you mean by it's not commonly used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ValiantRed600 (talkcontribs) 22:56, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

ValiantRed600 (talk) 01:20, 8 October 2010 (UTC)ValiantRed600 There are some red in the Yankees beside the logo,[1]

[edit] Edit request from 69.7.226.216, 27 October 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Through 2010 the yankees have an all time regular season record of 9,670 wins and 7,361 losses (pct .568)best of ny baseball team.

69.7.226.216 (talk) 14:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC) please update this i would like to get it printed but not until its updated Y —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.7.226.216 (talk) 15:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 22:08, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Your arranging the years wrong

The champions, Pennants, divisions winners, and wild card winners years should not be arranged like this, 2009, 2000, 1999, 1998 and so on. They should be arranged like this, 1923, 1927, 1928, 1932 and so on. So rearrange them so they won't get confused. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.137.140.167 (talk) 02:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree. I'll change it. --Muboshgu (talk) 02:38, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] NOR synthesis, should be deleted?

Deletion consideration for the fourth paragraph's sentence about most sports championships, it has been suggested that merely interpreting what a list of facts states is considered to be NOR and possibly synthesis. I am attempting to get clarification on this (been a number of days without response). I may be wrong discussing this PRIOR to deletion of facts even though those facts may be synthesized since the consensus seems to be to delete facts first then "synthesize" a rationalization for it. Also citations are necessary for that sentence. Thank you for your time. Hholt01 (talk) 10:27, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request from 75.106.171.118, 17 March 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Please add to list of "New York Yankees Hall of Famers" the names "Bill McKechnie" and "Leo Durocher" (under the "New York Yankees" section). McKechnie played for the Yankees in 1913 and Durocher in 1923 and 1928-9. They were elected to the HOF based on their later accomplishments as managers of other teams, but (like Branch Rickey or Clark Griffith, later managers/general managers for other teams who did make it onto this list) they did actually play for the Yankees early in their careers.

Four Yankees managers on the list were never players for the Yankees -- these include Miller Huggins, Bucky Harris, and Bob Lemon, who played for other major league teams, and Joe McCarthy, who never played in the majors at all. The footnote stating "Players listed in bold are depicted on their Hall of Fame plaques wearing a Yankees or Highlanders cap insignia" refers specifically to (among others) Huggins and McCarthy, and more generally implies that everyone on the list was a Yankees player. An adequate edit would be "Players or managers listed in bold..."

Four New York Yankees executives, none of whom ever played in the major leagues, were elected to the Hall of Fame, are not on this listing, and could appropriately be included, perhaps in a separate section; these include "Ed Barrow," "George Weiss," "Larry McPhail," and "Lee McPhail."

Source: National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum website, baseballhall.org

Thanks. 75.106.171.118 (talk) 02:33, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Not done. Please get a citation for this. ~~Awsome EBE123 talkContribs 14:35, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Requested edit

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In the "Distinctions" section, it mentions that the Los Angeles Dodgers lead in National League World Series appearances. This is outdated. The San Francisco Giants tie that record with 18. Please update this section-- I shouldn't need a citation. 67.180.72.215 (talk) 20:28, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

You need a citation for everything and a WP:RS

Interesting unsigned comment. You would not need a citation to state that the Giants have won 18 pennants because you can just go to their Wikipedia article and see for yourself. --67.180.161.183(talk)07:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
YesY Done The unsigned editor is incorrect. Noncontroversial facts don't all need to be sourced, especially when that is sourced at other pages. It's a matter of accuracy. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:32, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Actually, the source on the outdated fact is adequate to source the updated fact. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:44, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Are you trying to confuse me? --67.180.161.183(talk)00:56, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Historical Rivalries

This came up in a discussion with a user when I was editing the Phillies page. I made an entry regarding the rivalry between the Phillies and the Pirates, but the user objected because the rivalry has been dormant since the early 1990's. A compromise was reached whereby the rivalry was mentioned, but under the heading "Historical Rivalries."

It occurred to me that this should also be the case with the Yankees rivalries with the Dodgers and Giants. While undoubtedly of historical significance, the Dodgers-Yankees haven't been relevant to one another since 1981. Granted, they met in interleague play, and being a New Yorker living in Los Angeles I can tell you that there was a lot of (failed) attempt at generating hype, but the bottom line is that it doesn't matter anymore except in the historical context. This is even more true for the Yankees-Giants rivalry. Again, this is of a very historical significance. But the two teams haven't had any real rivalry going since the Giants moved to San Francisco, and that was over half-a-century ago.

Generally speaking, almost everyone hates on the Yanks. But the only current rivalries of any significance are probably those with Boston and the Mets. The latter is grouped together with the Giants and the Dodgers as part of the Subway Series, which makes sense, but I think that the section headers should be rewritten so that it's understood those rivalries are not currently active.

I would do this myself, but am locked since this is a new account. I've actually edited Wikipedia for years though, but took a break and forgot my password so had to make this new one. Since I can't make the edits, I'll submit it for discussion and see what you all think. For an example to see how this was resolved check out the Phillies page. TempDog123 (talk) 19:53, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I added a template to make your request stand out. --67.180.161.183(talk)16:59, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
As the original user should be able to edit the article himself now marking this as answered. Jnorton7558 (talk) 23:56, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Add NYY 1st by Derek Jeter.

Add NYY 1st by Derek Jeter, please. 99.181.147.26 (talk) 03:30, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

See here:[1]...Modernist (talk) 03:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Add from Portal:Current events/2011 July 9?

[edit] Jackie Robinson's #42

User:Mistermurdock has been removing Jackie Robinson's #42 number from the list of retired numbers, on the premise that Jackie Robinson "was not a Yankee" and that this is "a list of retired Yankees." While these statements are true, we must take into consideration the fact that Robinson's #42 is listed as retired on all 30 MLB teams' pages. Robinson's number was retired by all of MLB in 1997, therefore it should be listed as retired by the Yankees, evident in the fact that it is displayed at Monument Park, alongside other Yankee retired numbers. The only reason why it is still used by the Yankees (Mariano Rivera) is because of the grandfather clause allowing all players wearing the number in 1997 to continue doing so. Bloom6132 (talk) 13:04, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

The section in the article lists the numbers as nymbers retired by the Yankees, not as retired Yankee numbers. There is also a paragraph in that section explaining Jackie Robinsion. Everything is sufficiently explained. Mistermurdock shouldn't be changing a thing. Has this been explained on that user's talk page? Kjscotte34 (talk) 14:07, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Former farm club

In New York Yankees#Minor league affiliations, please add the following sentence immediately below the table of current affiliations:

From 1936 to 1954, the Kansas City Blues of the American Association were a Double-A level farm club for the Yankees.

Thank you. 67.101.6.77 (talk) 18:48, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

N Not done That section lists current affiliates only. To list every affiliate the Yankees have ever had would be burdensome to the page. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:02, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Question mark That answer appears to violate the first principle of WP:editing policy: Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required. I've marked the request as still being unanswered in the hope that you or someone else will reconsider. Thanks. 67.101.6.158 (talk) 21:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: I must agree with Muboshgu here insofar as listing every affiliate will get tedious. Furthermore, you do not cite any reliable sources for the addition of the information anyway so we wouldn't be able to accept it in the first place. Topher385 (talk) 23:24, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request from , 1 November 2011

In the 'Distinctions' section, please change this: "the St. Louis Cardinals are second with 10 World Series victories. The Yankees' number of World Series losses, 13, leads in Major League Baseball. The Brooklyn/Los Angeles Dodgers and New York/San Francisco Giants are second in total World Series appearances with eighteen apiece."

To this: "the St. Louis Cardinals are second with 11 World Series victories. The Yankees' number of World Series losses, 13, leads in Major League Baseball. The St. Louis Cardinals, Brooklyn/Los Angeles Dodgers and New York/San Francisco Giants are second in total World Series appearances with eighteen apiece."

Jillnjas (talk) 02:44, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 03:31, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request from , 19 November 2011

the yankees colors is also gray for their road uniform so please add to the colors. also on their roster please add spring training to it some of the other teams already have. 71.200.96.52 (talk) 00:09, 19 November 2011 (UTC) im done please do these two things thank you.

I've changed the color information. However, I couldn't figure out what you meant about the spring training thing. Could you please be more specific?~ Matthewrbowker Say hi! 23:00, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
I'm undoing this. Grey is not a Yankee color. Every team wears road greys. Also, we only change over roster templates for spring training when there is at least one spring training non-roster invitee. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:05, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
This is the same IP address that was involved in the most recent edit war, Muboshgu. Kjscotte34 (talk) 05:20, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request on 17 December 2011

The New York Yankees were not created in 1901. They were created inthe 1890s, in the National League, still known as the Baltimore Orioles.


Thank You, Brendan823rocks Brendan823rocks (talk) 00:45, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

The first season of the current franchise was 1901. Baltimore Orioles (19th century) was not related to the Yankees franchise. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:19, 17 December 2011 (UTC)


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