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good start; doesn't the ngagpa lineage come from the time when Buddhism was persecuted by Langdarma -- I seem to remember (and will look up) a story that he left the Tantrikas alone after Sangye Yeshe of Yub scared the pants off of him with a giant Scorpion... Zero sharp 02:07, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Refence to Hansard[edit]

There are very serious questions regarding Mr.Hansard and his claims. For more information please visit: , it is quite questionable if his quotes should be in the article.rudy 12:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Did he say the things that the article says that he says? There's nothing wrong with stating that he's said something. Perhaps the way that his quotes are currently used aren't the best, but I'm sure there is a to include his statements, even if others disagree. Sancho (talk) 17:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it is relevant what he writes or not, as it apears questionable info from an unreliable source - not exactly what you want in an encyclopedia... rudy 21:12, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Mr.Hansard has made numerous claims, all of which are subjct to serious question, not least of all his crass and cynical misrepresentation and exploitation of the Tibetan Bon tradition. For the record the quotes atributed to him in the article 'Dur-Bon Dur Con?' are authentic. He did indeed assert that the Dalai Lama recognized and valued his 'work', which was of course completely untrue. Perhaps people may choose to believe in Hansard the fact remains he is a fake!

Removed "indeed, the Mahasidda may be correctly referred to as Ngagpa": no. Some mahasiddhas were monks; a ngakpa cannot be a monk. MrDemeanour (talk) 14:52, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


Are there lay practitioners among the Gelugpas?

Austerlitz -- (talk) 23:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


"Translator’s Footnotes: 1 sngags pa General name for ordained Tantric practitioners who are neither monastic, nor lay." —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:43, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Austerlitz -- (talk) 16:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Austerlitz -- (talk) 22:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC)