Talk:Niccolò Fontana Tartaglia

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Hi all, the name should be Niccolò with an accent. "Niccolo" is not a name in Italian. Most Italian pages on the subject report the accented version. What about moving the article? Furthermore, there should be a note reporting that tartaglia was actually a nickname, "tartagliare" means "to stutter". Orzetto 06:51, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The article is incomplete. The McTutor link at the bottom provides good material. Stammer 16:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


fixed article-verb agreement in the opening line. i think "...method, let's say a construction, to..." near the end should be fixed/removed. Sullage 20:58, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Italian translation of Archimedes and Euclid[edit]

I never heard of such translations of Archimedes by Tartaglia and I really doubt that this is true. It is well known that he appeared as editor (not translator) for a Latin (not Italian) version of some texts of Archimedes. Tartaglia claimed the authorship for the translation, but it was just a copy of a translation done by William of Moerbeke in the 13th century.

By the way, categorising his translation of Euclid's Elements as "was especially significant" is venturous. In accordance with Tartaglia's role in mathematics as a sort of private teacher (he never taught at universities) this translation might have been significant for the type of students he had. The lingua franca for renaissance mathematicians was Latin and not Italian. Finally the famous historian of mathematics Moritz Cantor mentioned in his "Vorlesungen über Geschichte der Mathematik" that Tartaglias translation was based on two Latin translations and ignored the origininal greek text, which was already available in printed form at that time.

After all the statement about Tartaglia's translation seems to express some sort of admiration for Tartaglia, but it doesn't match our historical knowledge.

Labus (talk) 21:55, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually, according to the Dictionary of Scientific Biography by Charles Coulston Gillispie, Tartaglia "produced an edition of William of Moerbeke's thirteenth-centruy Latin version of some of Archimedes' works. Tartaglia returned to Archimedes in 1551, publishing an Italian translation, with commentary, of part of Book I of De insidentibus aquae that was included in the Ragionamento primo on the Travagliata inventione". I think the statement that Tartaglia translated texts by Archimedes therefore is true. 132.229.121.233 (talk) 16:20, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Tartaglia's first solution to the cubic[edit]

Is there any written text about Tartaglia's original solution to x^3 \pm a x^2 = b\,? Also, I read somewhere that Tartaglia stole Scipione del Ferro's solution to x^3 + p x = q\, while he was contesting with Antonio Fiore. Albmont (talk) 19:26, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

If you check out the website for MacTutor listed in the external links section there is an article about the poem which he wrote (translated to English) that allowed him to memorize the formula without having to write it down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrorangesmu (talkcontribs) 22:14, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

There is a nice discussion of the poetic form that Tartaglia used as well as the original Italian and another English translation available. Is there a reason why we can't include that on this page? Copyright restrictions?Mrorangesmu (talk) 22:21, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

All the sources I have checked indicate that Tartaglia came up with his solutions on his own. He did this in response to a challenge from del Ferro's student Antonio Maria FioreMrorangesmu (talk) 20:15, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Tartaglia's name[edit]

It looks as if his name is in fact not "Niccolò Fontana Tartaglia", but "Nicolo Tartaglia". His surname is not "Fontana" and he never wrote "Niccolò" himself, as Prof Friedrich Katscher said in the German Wikipedia - he wrote a book about Tartaglia. If you can read German, please have a look at de:Nicolo Tartaglia. Best greetings, --134.130.131.116 (talk) 07:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Tartaglia's cubic problems[edit]

This is an interesting compilation of the problems that Tartaglia had to deal in the contests with Antonio Fior and Ferrari: http://www.gap-system.org/~history/HistTopics/Tartaglia_v_Cardan.html. Albmont (talk) 14:09, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Tartaglia's formula[edit]

In Tetrahedron#Volume it is stated that Tartaglia's formula is is essentially due to the painter Piero della Francesca in the 15th century. If this is the case, it should be also stated in the Niccolò Fontana Tartaglia article. Maxal (talk) 16:54, 22 August 2009 (UTC)