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[edit] wrong address catagory

barnet isnt in hertfordshire but london, ie- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Borough_of_Barnet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vcorani (talkcontribs) 22:16, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Not in 1959 it wasn't. Read the first sentence under "Early life and education". Emeraude (talk) 11:42, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] 2010 corruption allegations?

The lead of the Richard Barnbrook article claims that Barnbrook "resigned the BNP whip in August 2010, following corruption allegations against party leader Nick Griffin."

Given Barnbrook's prominence within the party, I am surprised not to find a paragraph devoted to the allegations and the fallout in this article. What gives? Skomorokh 15:49, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

The problem is, given the nature of the BNP, its members, its history of splits accompanied with accusations and counter-accusations, that it is practically impossible to tell who is telling the truth (if anyone). In addition, there is an ongong and related issue of the BNP allegedly providing false financial reports to the electoral authorities. It is likely to be some time before the waters are unmuddied on any of this. Emeraude (talk) 17:16, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Royal British Legion

Theres a clean up of the BNP page going on here,User:Red Deathy/Sand3. This section is sepecifically about griffin and the rest is just woffle. If anyone is interested heres it is: (many appologies if this material is already covered in this article)

[edit] Veterans and Second World War

In June 2009, the Royal British Legion wrote to Griffin privately to ask him to stop wearing their poppy symbol. After he refused and wore the badge at campaign events and on the party's televised election broadcast, The Legion said in an open letter: "True valour deserves respect regardless of a person's ethnic origin, and everyone who serves or has served their country deserves nothing less ... [our national chairman] appealed to your sense of honour. But you have responded by continuing to wear the poppy. So now we're no longer asking you privately. Stop it, Mr Griffin. Just stop it."[1] In September 2009, the Legion accepted a donation which it had initially rejected from BNP member Rachel Firth. Firth had spent 24 hours raising the money, half of which was given to the Legion and the other half to the BNP. The Legion said that Firth had assured them that the donation would not be exploited politically although the story was later "splashed across" the BNP's website. BNP spokesman Simon Darby denied that the party exploited the story.[2] U6j65 (talk) 18:06, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Holocaust Denial

Hi there. This matter I feel could be resolved very easily if people would just stick to the rules. It's unsourced. N.G was aquitted of hate speech here. "http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6137722.stm". Is there any evidence to support him being a firm holocaust denier. I haven't seen any yet. There are varies people who report he called it the "holohoax" however. Anyway, wiki rules require me to remove these tags until its sourced. Thank you for your understanding. Alexandre8 (talk) 21:36, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Holocaust denial is not a criminal offence in the UK, but Griffin certainly has denied the extent of the holocaust, as you would have found out if you'd read the article, or conducted the most basic search for information. As things stand the article most certainly does include citations to support his views on this matter, and I will therefore revert your edits, which are incorrect and badly-phrased. Parrot of Doom 22:01, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Extent. Big difference from flat out denial. If you're going to be cold with me, expect the same back. There is no direct source in the article linking him to holocaust denial. Add one now please. Alexandre8 (talk) 22:19, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Says he is here and here and that was just a quick check, you can add them as sources if you wish. Mo ainm~Talk 22:33, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
You are incorrect, there are plenty of sources in the article which mention his views on the holocaust, and there are doubtless many more to be found elsewhere. Maybe next you'll want a citation which demonstrates that the sky is blue and water is wet. Parrot of Doom 22:48, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
It's silly to be so anal like that parrot. It doesn't help anyone. All I was asking for was a quote, as by wikipedia standards. If you'll look at the list of U.S presidents, you'll find everyone of them is quoted four times, just as evidence as his position as the 9th, 12th, 21st president. I would have thought that was pretty set in stone too. Anyway, holocaust denial is a totally different thing. Alexandre8 (talk) 22:53, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm not the one being anal or silly, I leave that to others. I don't recall you asking for a quote and I'm not aware of a "standard" that demands one. His denial of the holocaust is well documented and cited in the article, further citations are not necessary. Parrot of Doom 23:03, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Age when joining the National Front

Griffin is first stated to have joined the National Front at the age of fifteen, then later in the early life section stated to have been fourteen. Someone with an account should probably fix that. --212.238.145.89 (talk) 18:16, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Done, thanks for spotting that error. Parrot of Doom 18:30, 13 January 2012 (UTC)


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