Talk:Nigerians in Japan

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My edits to this page[edit]

Since YvelinesFrance repeatedly insists on deleting sourced material based on the flimsiest of excuses (like "The sources are not retrievable" when the sources are books printed on dead trees with working Google Books links in addition for people who are too lazy to go to the library, or newspaper articles saved at the Internet Archive), here is my detailed explanation of my recent edits:

  1. "5,000 known immigrants" - no, not all foreigners in Japan are "immigrants", and the likelihood that there are "unknown" ones is extremely low. There is no reason for this phrasing. The previous phrasing "five thousand people" is fine. Unlike in Europe there is very little clandestine entry; MOJ statistics on people who arrived on tourist visas and never left tend to be quite accurate. Furthermore I have no idea why this user deletes the links to Nigeria and Japan in the lede, which are hardly WP:OVERLINKing for an article with direct relevance to both countries.
  2. "They have been known to spike alcoholic drinks and rob their customers within their bars and clubs" - this is, at best, a grossly cherry-picked reading of the source cited, which actually says: "After speaking with several alleged victims and implicated club owners, reviewing documentation provided by both parties (credit card records in particular) and examining the police investigations that followed, I became convinced that while some drink-spiking did occur, most of the incidents that led to allegations of drink-spiking didn't involve anything criminal ... This version of events is supported by the frequency with which alleged victims' stories didn't match the narrative that emerged in press coverage of the incidents. Few woke up in a strange place without their wallets, and most could only cite an unusually severe hangover as evidence their drinks had been spiked, a common complaint in Roppongi, where even izakaya pubs often add hard liquor to the first few beers in unlimited drink packages." So I changed the phrasing to mention the incidents of spiked drinks without giving the false impression that this is a common mode of operation.
  3. I also reinserted the deleted sentence reading "Many of the migrants working in this industry are in training for or have completed qualifications for professional positions such as engineering in institutions in their home countries or in Japan, but were unable to find any other kind of work in Japan suited to their level of education". This is directly supported by the source cited, which is perfectly well retrievable and states: "Furthermore, to the discredit of Ishihara's understandings, quite a few of the Africans are, in fact, highly educated, often in technical fields and engineering, mostly and colleges and universities in Africa, but also in some cases at those in Japan".

Regards, 61.18.190.206 (talk) 06:42, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Once again I have reverted the deletion of sourced material from an American academic publisher against YvelinesFrance's hilarious claim that it is "Nigerian propaganda". And now we have this gem: "Nigerian bar and club owners have been known to spike alcoholic drinks and rob their customers, and reports of such incidents have been verified by investigation". Yet another cherry-picked reading of the source from a user with a clear POV to push. 61.18.190.125 (talk) 23:47, 16 July 2013 (UTC)