Talk:Nikolay Burdenko

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Russia and the past[edit]

For any logical and consisten usage, terms in categories need to have a unified meaning. The Russian Empire was not the same state as the current Russia, outside of the mind of Putin, and in the Russian Empire a large number of subjects would not have ever identified under the denonym "Russian". In the same way that despite what Erdogan believes, the Ottoman Empire and Turkey are not the same, and we do not use Turkish as a category to identify the subjects of the Ottoman Empire, we should not use "Russian" to identify the subjects of the Russian Empire.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:55, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you just care to read anything on Russian or world history, you'll find out that the term "Russian" was used long before Putin, Yeltsin or the Russian Federation ever existed. Just like the term "British", not "Imperial British" hasb een used for centuries. Only the Soviet period introduced the "Soviet" term, and that one has long gone. The clasification you are using is original research and need to be well-sourced and discussed. But to add to confusion, you creat subcategories like "Russian Empire military doctors" in the "Military physicians by nationality" categories. AveTory (talk) 02:07, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and as for Burdenko and Pirogov, both of them identified themselves as "Russians" and "Russian surgeons" in their works and public speeches, not to mention they were both Russians by origin and by birth. AveTory (talk) 02:19, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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