Talk:Nissan Micra

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The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 17:18, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

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Nissan March → Nissan Micra — I'd like to pursue a vote for changing the name to Nissan Micra as the first line states that it's not the Nissan March, except in India and Asia, and their first languages are unlikely to be English in all fairness. Please let your opinions be known. Jenova20 17:16, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

• Support per WP:COMMONNAME. If it's the name used in all English-speaking nations (including English-speaking India, unlike what the nominator said) then it's a no-brainer. "March" seems to be confined to the Far East. 86.6.193.43 (talk) 22:22, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
• Support --Pineapple Fez 05:38, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
• Support. I live in Britain and no-one here EVER calls the Micra a March. This title should be changed.-- Myosotis Scorpioides 09:57, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
• Support Jenova20 11:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

I'm wondering how the article became the March if there isn't any support to keep it that way. Jenova20 11:07, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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Does anybody know?

I think the article is better named "Nissan Micra" as it is the more common name world-wide.

Does anybody know the original reason for using why Nissan used the two names, and whether "March" refers to the month, or the act of walking in a particular way? regards, Lynbarn (talk) 11:28, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

I think the article just got hijacked and Asianised in the same way Sedan keeps appearing on UK car articles to Americanise them.

It's sorted now anyway though, so thanks for the contribution. =]

Jenova20 12:03, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I know what you mean about "Ford Cortina Sedan" and the like! I meant my contribution as two separate points - the reason for the different names may add something to the article. I've clarified it now! thanks, Lynbarn (talk) 12:15, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Nissan March K13 made in China

Nissan March made in China is for DOMESTIC China market only (not include Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan markets), and it is left hand drive.

Hong Kong and Macau are right hand drive, the March is from Thailand instead.

For Taiwan market, it is left hand drive, but up until now, there is no Nissan March available. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Buhin (talk • contribs) 10:12, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

K11C?

It's been bugging me for a while now, is there actually any proof that the facelift was called K11C? All references to the K11 in the Nissan parts catalogue just list "K11E" (Europe) or "K11/WK11" etc (Japan)

Same goes for the K12 now I come to think of it James ^MSC 16:13, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hobby section

Can i or someone else delete the "Scale models" section? It is nothing but unsourced advertising for collectors. Thanks Jenova20 09:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

A contrary opinion on naming--even if the title stays as is, the original name, "March", needs more emphasis.

I know this debate happened a year ago, which is often a problem with such debates on Wikipedia--those most inclined to disagree may not even know about it until after the fact. Oh well. Anyway, here's my two cents.

First of all, I'm an American, which obviously colors my viewpoint. Since the car is not sold here, I'm not thinking of it by the name a customer would use. Rather, I'm thinking of it as a Japanese car with its name in Japan, "March". (As to why I know about it at all, blame the Gran Turismo video game series, which exposed me and many other Americans to a large array of Japanese cars which have never been sold in this country.) This exposes a subtle problem with Wikipedia's naming policy, which states that an article should be named according to the subject's common name in English-language sources. But what happens when a product is deliberately named differently in different markets? Should you name it according to the name recognized by most of its English-speaking customers, or should you recognize that there are also English speakers outside of those markets who may be thinking in terms of the product in its home market, or elsewhere? Of course most English sources discussing this car are talking about the Europe/Canada-marketed version, the Micra. But this article is also discussing the original car as built and sold in Japan, not to mention elsewhere in Asia and Latin America. That car is the March, and should be called that in those contexts, since that's the name people there recognize it by.

Article moves can be a contentious mess, so I'll steer away from that question. However, the article as it's currently written places such an emphasis on sticking to the Micra name that when I first read it, I wasn't sure what the car's original Japanese name was. The only hint I had was the bit in the lead, "known in ... most of Asia as the Nissan March (マーチ Māchi)". Well, the fact that "March" is also given in Japanese is a clue, but "most of Asia" may not necessarily include Japan, and when the article goes on to discuss the car's creation and original sale in Japan, it calls it the Micra again, as if that was the name used in Japan. I had to go to the Japanese Wikipedia to reassure myself that the original name was indeed "March".

In those markets where the car is called Micra, use that name, sure, but don't apply that name in markets where it isn't used, in particular the country where the car was made. That's just confusing.

--Colin Douglas Howell (talk) 21:03, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I believe Micra is the correct name for this article, as all English speaking countries call it that. A similar comparison would be the Sega Genesis article. The Genesis was sold as the Mega Drive in both Europe and Japan, however the article adopts the American name. Contrary to this, Wikipedia Japan quite rightly lists is as Mega Drive.

The reasons for it being named Genesis are numerous, however the one that stuck out to me was:

• "Sega Genesis" was the name used when the console was first released in an English speaking market (which is relevant because the naturalness criterion says titles usually convey what the subject is actually called in English, and, again, original usage is important per WP:TITLECHANGES).

James ^MSC 18:10, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Micra is made in Mexico and sold in Mexico & Canada as the Nissan Micra, but with Versa running gear. It's nothing like the foreign Japanese Nissan March, except in surface appearance. Nobody has ever heard it called "Nissan March", and March fans would be stumped by its Versa engine and transmissions. Santamoly (talk) 05:40, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

The statement above is incorrect, mexican made cars are marketed as March in Mexico and South America, only in Canada are called Micra. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.189.57.36 (talk) 11:55, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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