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North London used colloquially usually does not refer to places futher west than say Harlesden or Wembley, or futher east that say Enfield or Edmonton. Although it is obviously true that North London is everthing withing the Greater London area that is north of the Thames, this distinction should be made clearer I think. Duncan Smith 12:47, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Why are many North London boroughs missed out on the list? NWC
North of the Thames?
"North London is that part of the United Kingdom capital city of London which is north of the River Thames"
- I have just about never heard the term used in this sense. The articles needs a complete rewrite. --18.104.22.168 19:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree. I have just commented on the South London article regarding Teddington's inclusion (as part of Richmond Borough) within it. Including it in North London seems positively absurd. I have never heard North London to include all London on the north side of the Thames (which, incidentally means the map is wrong because all of Richmond Borough is included even though it straddles the Thames).
I reckon contributors to this and similar articles ought to get their heads together and work it out. For anyone's interest, this is the understanding I grew up with: North London: the former LCC area north of the river excluding Tower Hamlets and half of Hackney South London: the former LCC area south of the river excluding Greenwich and Lewisham South East London: Greenwich and Lewisham West London: The LCC area west of the city excluding the West End and adding Brent + Ealing Middlesex / Essex / Kent / Surrey: the leftover bits. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 03:50, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
North London -definitions
The definition of this area is a funny one full of anomalies, inconsistencies and subjective opinions.
1)North London could be defined as anything above the Thames. well lets be honest that definition is very very wrong and would be contested by East and West Londoners. So thats probably the least acceptable definition.
2)North London could be considered the boroughs of Haringey, Enfield, Barnet, Islington, Camden, Brent, Harrow, Hackney & Waltham Forest. This is probably inaccurate in the case of Waltham Forest, large parts of Hackney and even possibly Brent and Harrow (which do have a relatively strong Northwest identity-although whether it is entirely seperate from a general North London ididnetity is subjective and debateable. I personally have heard areas such as Wembley referred to as both before.
3)North London could be defined as the boroughs of Haringey, Enfield, Barnet, Islington and Camden. This is a relatively sound opinion.
4)North London could be construed as anything with a "N" or "NW" postcode- meaning Haringey, Enfield, Barnet, Brent, Harrow, most of Camden, most of Islington & Western parts of Hackney such as Stamford Hill, Stoke newington & Kingsland. Out of note i have generally heard these 3 areas reffered in everyday parlance as North London. Also the Southern parts of Camden & Islington are indeed Central London in character and i would therefore accept they are Central London. In the case of Islington once you go about a mile or so past Holloway it feels like central London.
The N' postcode argument is probably the most satisfactory definition and it is probably the one entity which gives a clear idea of the boundaries or North, East, West & South London. The only other one (in the case of the Northern half of London) is Borough boundaries which is weak. Obviously the geographical boundaries of the Thames between South London vs the rest is clear and concise, leaving no room for subjective interpretations. *Note- obviously there are exceptions for the outskirts of London with areas for instance in Enfield which have "EN" in there postcode. this is the same all around London suburbs.