Talk:November 14

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November 14: World Diabetes Day; Children's Day in India

Eugene Burton Ely takes off from a warship


Removed:

  • 2006 - New Adventures of Superman Season 4 DVD Released

Absolutely trivial, this is not a page for dvd launch dates. --68.199.153.255 02:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Removed:

Trivial. Not really a notable lighthouse. --mav 04:23, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Removed:

  • 1832 - First streetcar (a horse-drawn wagon) goes into operation, in New York City.

Could not be confirmed outside of 'this day in history'-like pages. --mav 04:23, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Moved:

Nope - happened on November 13. --mav

A bit late now, but Nope - this indeed happened on 14 November, at 0619hrs in the morning to be precise. The torpedoing happened the day before, at 15.41 hours. Benea (talk) 22:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Moved:

Nope - happened on November 13. --mav

Moved:

Nope - happened on November 20. --mav 04:23, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)


Coventry Bombing[edit]

I think it should be noted that James McDade managed to blow himself up by accident whilst bombing the Post Office in Coventry city centre. Possibly by coincidence, it happens to be 34 years after the WWII bombing of Coventry.

Also, the 'Birmingham Six' were also arrested on their way to his funeral. 86.148.84.79 01:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Nicolai Cleve Broch[edit]

He is one of Norway's most well-known contemporary actors. I'll get to working on the article when time permits. If his article isn't at DYK-level at the end of the month, I won't object to his removal from the list. Sounds good? decltype (talk) 21:24, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

If the level of the biography has risen sufficiently by any date in the future I will not object to it being included. If he is put back now somebody else will almost certainly remove him. Drappel (talk) 21:32, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
That may be, but I think inclusion in such a list should be based on the subject's inherent notability, and not the length of the subject's article here. Cleve Broch also has entries on six other wikis. decltype (talk) 21:41, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
All the other wikis have only stub articles, being one of the most well know actors in any country is not an indication of global notability. Drappel (talk) 22:01, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
I never said that. All I'm saying is that either the subject is notable, or it isn't, according to the relevant guidelines, and the length of the subject's article on the English Wikipedia doesn't change that fact. For this reason, I see no apparent basis in our policies or guidelines for the statement "... one line biography, which indicates a lack of sufficient notability". However, I do agree that the subject should ideally have a more comprehensive article, so I've simply deleted the old one. From what you said above, I take it you will not object to the article's inclusion here once the article has been improved. Regards, decltype (talk) 02:25, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Okay, the article has been significantly expanded. Please let me know if you have further objections to it being added to this page. Regards, decltype (talk) 05:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
As the article currently stands with the guidelines for inclusion as they currently stand I personally have no strong objections to inclusion, others may object even now or in the future. To have included it before expansion, even with the promise of expansion would have been to put the cart before the horse. I see that the Norwegian language version is now considerably less complete than the English language version. Drappel (talk) 15:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Lech Wałęsa released from prison[edit]

1982: I noted that it was mentioned on 12th November that Lech Walesa was released, wich one is correct, the 12th or the 14th? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.72.178.77 (talk) 12:04, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Hmm...good question. The Lech Wałęsa article states he was released on the 14th, but neither of the sources in the article actually gives this exact date, just that he was released in November. According to [1] and [2] he was released on the 14th, but according to [3] and [4] he was released on the 12th. Googling around can find lots more links supporting both dates, but the sources look better for the 12th. The BBC article seems to have been written at the time, and supports the 12th as the right date. This should be sorted out in the Lech Wałęsa article first. I'll try doing a bit more research, but I suspect the article should be changed to support the 12th. Winston365 (talk) 20:00, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
I've gone through a bunch of newspaper articles and from what I can tell it seems the release papers were signed on the 12th (Friday), he was released on the 13th and arrived back home in Gdańsk on the 14th (Sunday). Some links that support this time frame: [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]. I'll try to sort through this and work out the best way to fix the Lech Wałęsa article. As for which of these pages should have the entry, I'm not entirely sure which is the best date yet. Winston365 (talk) 00:59, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
I'm beginning to think that the Lech Wałęsa article doesn't really need fixing here. It doesn't actually state he was released on the 14th directly, just that he was incarcerated until the 14th. I suppose this is probably true in a sense. Although this article states he could technically be considered a free man after the signing of the release papers, which seemed to happen on the 12th, in this article there is a direct quote from Wałęsa stating the final order releasing him were signed only minutes before his arrival back home in Gdańsk on the 14th. All of this is of course bordering on WP:SYN, but it seems to me a direct quote from Wałęsa published in a reliable source (the Bangor Daily News) stating he wasn't technically released until the 14th is good enough to establish the 14th as the best date. Initial papers may have been signed on the 12th, and he may have left Arłamów on the 13th, but he was still in custody and evidently there was still paperwork to do before things were finalized. Perhaps a slight rewording could be done to the entry on November 14 but I'm not sure it's necessary. I have removed the event from November 12. Winston365 (talk) 21:47, 20 November 2010 (UTC)